Posted by Martin (IP: 206.165.137.242) on April 14, 1999 at 12:12:20:
In Reply to: Sick of this!! posted by Chris on April 13, 1999 at 23:59:31:
I've also grown up around Fords and personally have two mavericks, a 63 Falcon Futura, and a backhalfed 1990 Mustang with a 460 that runs low 10's. I personally like Fords, but like old cars in general. I have nothing against Chevy's Mopars.... but agree with you on the rice burners ( which are actually better than low riders at least, am I right? )
As far as your friend that spent ten grand on a 400 ??!!?! In a 73 Ranchero?!?! That's not a high performance engine, it's a torque motor for a truck. Then trying to get a big 1973 Ranchero to go fast?? I used to have a 73 Ranchero GT with a factory towing package and that thing weighed like 4000 lbs. !! I liked the truck, but would never try to make something that big and heavy a street racer. to each his own I guess. But for that much money he could have built one hell of a 460 for that Ranchero. It does not cost much to get a 460 to go fast, the 460 in Mustang uses stock DOVE-C heads that were home ported, stock rods, TRW flat tops, stock crank, with a Ford Power Parts intake and 1050 Dominatorand behind runs a 5500 Stall powerglide -- YES A POWERGLIDE !! And runs low 10's. A powerglide is much cheaper and lighter than a good C-6.
Well, that's my story..... yep.
: Everyone, it seems, has a reason to hate everything but fords! Now, i hate to come across as a ford hater because i'm quite proud of my maverick and my whole family likes fords, but...
: You guys don't have any real reasons to hate Chevy's or Mopars!! All i hear is "Well, uh, Chevy's are ugly" and "Everyone owns Mopars" and "Fords are just better (no reason)". Well, the truth is that Fords aren't ALWAYS better. The reason that people use Chevy engines in their 'Rods are because the heads are much better designed and the engine is more streetable to begin with. This is the major reason that parts for Chevy's are easier to come by. With LITTLE exception ford engines just aren't that great for racing without a lot of modifications! The Cleveland and the Boss and the Cammer and the SCJ are good examples of GOOD Ford race engines, but the rest need a lot of work to compete (i.e. a lot of machining, boring, etc.). If you were not discriminating against chevy's, which would you honestly say is the more credited engine, the 454 or the 460? I've seen local 454's go for $1000 rebuilt, while a rebuilt 460 will go for about $300.
: On one of my previous posts, where i questioned putting a Mopar/other engine in my maverick, i got a few good responses like "It's heavier and wider than a 351", etc. Those are GOOD responses, and because of the intelligent answers i won't be putting anything but a Ford engine in my maverick. Stupid responses are ones that imply that the 318 can't compete with a 302 because it's not Ford. Truth is, my friend has an old ('68?) Dodge p/u that was used as a Forest rangers car for god knows how long...the STOCK 318 can beat out nearly every mustang (5.0) we've found w/out nitrous or a blower! Yes, the 302 can be tricked out beyond belief...but why would i want to do that (unless i found a money tree in my ass, of course) when i could start out with an engine that's faster stock? (The point that the 5.0 is common because it's a good engine was a good point, however).
: My friend owns a '73 Ranchero 500 (400CID), he's put literally $10,000 into the engine and car, all the tricks without a blower, and now he wants to sell it, why? Because his dad's bone STOCK '69 Challenger with a 340 four barrel can rape it. It tears it to shreds! Since Ford's are obviously (according to a lot of people here) the supreme machine, why is this?
: Anyways, i'm not saying i hate fords or fords can't compete with other manufacturers or anything like that, but it really pisses me off that the Ford/Chevy/Mopar guys are so busy pasting those "Piss on ______ (fill in: Ford/Chevy/Mopar)" stickers on their car that they won't even consider a second look at an otherwise nice car. I post on this board just as much as the next guy (or girl), i'm a dedicated ford fan. But i just don't understand why there's such a feud other than the obvious: it's a tradition.
: If there's anyone to be pissed on, let's piss on those turbo-charged imports, okay?
: Chris
: BTW, let's try and keep responses on an intelligent level, okay?