Posted by rickyracer (IP: 209.20.173.113) on September 15, 1999 at 16:41:01:
In Reply to: Versaille Rear End/Traction Loc? posted by John B. on September 15, 1999 at 14:35:26:
: First of all the "war case " is a manufactoring designator. It's is used for the very weakest of applicantions,(very light duty).
Next not all Versailles had 9" rearends, some had 7.5" ones which is the same as the MustII. The biggest rearend in a Mustang II was the 8". Not the same as a 9" & 7.5". And yes some Versailles had Posi units in them, not very many. Dealers don't like to put something in a car that cuts into profit. And 95% of the cars people bought off the lot back then and the dealer ordered most new cars not the new owner.
A "pumpkin" is slang for the removeable third member assembly that the ring/pinion gears, carrier, and bearings are housed in. There is also different carrier bearing sizes, there are two. All that you will find in a Versailles are 28 spline,(grooves in the axles shafts) with the 9" rearend.
To use the rear disc brake system you don't have to have the Versailles front discs , but you do have to have front disc brakes and the propotioning valve from the Versailles. or an after market one.
The reason is with drum in the front and disc in the back the disc will brake better and your cars ends will swap on you. Remember, 65-75% of all vehile braking is done by the front brakes, change that % and you'll have some real fun of slick roads. Also don't forget any parking brake cables, hardware from the Versailles. Get all the info from the donor car, yr, make, model, etc. for parts down the line.
And yes you can convert a non posi rearend into a posi unit by using a posi carrier unit, get a new one, because by the time you clean, rebuild, change to the gears you want,+ labor, you might as well have bought a new or already rebuilt one.
The main advantage of the Versailles rear disc rearend is only the brakes and housing. Everything else in a profermance applicantion will need to be beefed up. Still a good swap thou. Just rearends are getting hard to find. And there is allot more convertion kits available for any rearend you have now. Check out the kit convertions against the Versailles rearend cost first.
Hope I didn't confuse you any more then alreally
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I'm getting confused. Can someone please clarify a few points? Do all Versailles have 9" rear ends? Do any of them also have Traction-Loc? Can you convert a non-Traction-Loc Versaille rear end using the Traction-Loc from a Mustang II or other Traction-Loc equipped car? What parts would be involved? What's this about having to change the "pumpkin"? What's a pumpkin exactly? What's a "war case"? To use the Versaille rear disc brakes do you need to use the Versaille front brakes too? Thanks for any help offered. John B.