Alright the old man is back. Scored a T-10. 64 Falcon 260 factor with this T-10. The local Mustang crowd said they would help me either putting in the T-5 or the t-10. I want this T-10. I REALLY want a TL but not for 1500 bucks plus the install. Local salvage yard got me the shiftier on the tail shaft, I need 1 shifting rod, We will do a clutch when we do the swap. Since it has been in the car since 1978 it is time to swap a clutch So, we are back to T-10 or worse case scenario the T-5. One from a V-8 5.0 T-5.
get a t5 its easy you have to weld some flat bar spacers to your frame where the cross member goes for your transmission and then bolt your trans cross member to them (you may not have to do this since your car is a factory manual we had to cause his car was factory auto) you already have a hole in the floor so thats done by the hydrolic clutch kit so you dont have to worry about a z bar or cable anymore then there you go youre done youll be getting better gas mileage than alot of small cars my son took a 5.0 and t5 from a 84 mustang and stuck it in his 71 grabber and hes getting 30 miles to the gallon
Like Krazy Comet said the Falcon has a different tail housing to mount the shifter forward. The t-10's narrow bolt patteren won't fit a 6-bolt bellhousing unless it has dual bolt patteren. You will need a longer speedometer cable to reach the other side of the transmission. Get ready to redesign the wheel putting an early Falcon transmission into a Maverick. You will be more happier with a toploader or t-5. I paid $600 for a freshly rebuilt 4-speed toploader with the Hurst Competition shifter still attached a few years ago on Craigslist that had about 60 mile on the clock...even came with the yoke. Deals are out there if you're patient or look hard enough
OK..got that one. I've always thought that the Falcon was the donor frame for the Comet/Maverick. Remember mine is stock from the factory as it came off the truck in Elko Nev in 1971. I did thoroughly enjoy that TL 4sp in it way back in the 80's. I have a boy now that is a pilot with SkyWest flying for AA, UAL and Delta. When his mother (holding breath when mentioning that person), was carrying the boy in her tummy, I remember drag racing a Chev pickup way out in the county. As we pulled away from the stop sign he tried to pass me. I stood on it. 3rd gear he was a distant light in the back window. Maybe he had a 292 six.... I think I am going to keep looking for a TL 4speed. I've I am going to drop some cash into this car (mainly paying someone @ $100 an hour to retro fit this), I might as well dig into the cookie jar and do this right. There really is nothing intrinsically wrong with the TL 3 speed. It is just 3 gears vs 4...and I did drive a big rig for the past 10 years after retiring from the classroom as a teacher, so I kinda like having a selection available--- Today I'll get some pictures of the baby sitting in the garage for the forum's edification. It will be the first pictures taken since 1997. And with all the dust, collection of stuff while the little car waits for me to pull it out for a fresh lease on life. Here is the t-10 I'm lusting after http://i60.tinypic.com/10d87xd.jpg
I used to buy those Z bars by the dozen since my Comet would snap them in half. I stumbled upon two brand new ones in the garage last summer. I saw one on Ebay for $230---dang! I'm trying to find a shop in town that will do a conversion. I do like the 5 speed 30mpg idea
If I am changing/upgrading a car that's been out of service that long and going to use it as a cruiser - 5spd,. is the only way for me. I wud let it sit till money is right and go w/OD. I can't see going w/ anything else and sometime after the switch wishing I had done the OD.
So you would of put a 5 speed in over the 4 speed? I'm with you on that. Years back I had a diesel Rabbit truck, which I put a 9a into it. 4 lower close ratio gears and a really tall 5th. I could squeeze 50mpg out at 65 all day long. Yet had 4 tight gears for stop light to stoplight.
For the TL any from a small block '66-'73ish Fairlane, Torino, Cyclone, Falcon, Stang, Cougar('67) etc should be a direct swap... If I remember correctly those are approx 24" long from front of case to end of tail shaft... The earlier models often had T-10, had friends with three '65 Comets and a '65 Falcon that all had the BW trans... Issues arise when trying to use a big block trans as input is shorter and TLs from full size models are longer...
Not much to see at this point, but I WILL get her out of the garage. Gotta move a boat first (requires a 3/4 Ford to move it). The cats love to play on it--thus giving the foot prints over the dust that has collected since 1990. Also the local Mustang group are willing to put the trans in whenever I get it out from its sleeping place. http://i60.tinypic.com/nb9a2w.jpg http://tinypic.com/m/ih8v0h/1 http://i61.tinypic.com/sfdjjm.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/29w06e1.jpg
would this transmission work? Is the shifter too far forward? I can't tell from this picture if the tail shaft has a spot to bolt the shifter on.... http://i60.tinypic.com/10d87xd.jpg
That is the Falcon T-10 trans. The shifter is 5 inches forward from the stock Mav/Comet location which requires an adapter to move the shifter back and longer shift rods, not to mention the crossmember mods to accommodate the early mount style. If it were me I'd run the 5 speed. You gain the OD and have very few mods to the original body to make it work.
Since your Maverick came with a manual transmission already...the only thing you need to buy is a $20-25 spacer, t5 with bellhousing and a custom crossmember. No need in swapping to hydraulic or cable. 71gold is the go-to-man for the crossmember. When I swapped from an automatic to a t5 I had to do a little bit more to do to make the swap happen...like add clutch pedal and clutch/linkage. See http://mmb.maverick.to/threads/c4-to-t5-swap-with-250-six-cyl.94894/ for details. BTW the 250 inline six uses the same bellhousing as the 302 so the info in the tech article is the same for a 302
the t5 swap is really easy on a stick shift car. you just need an adaptor plate for the trans to the bellhousing, a different clutch disk (might as well replace the pressure plate but not necessary), a v8 t5, and need to modify the crossmember and clearance the rib in the tunnel to clear the shift rail tube of the t5. no real need to switch to a hydraulic clutch.
Well, here it is. It has been inside the garage since 1990. I pulled it out with my Jeep, it sits in the driveway waiting for a bath, a carb and a trans swap--Give me 6 months.... http://i61.tinypic.com/15g5fua.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/2z7fyo3.jpg http://i59.tinypic.com/21e3z36.jpg http://i60.tinypic.com/111k0vr.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/2naiw74.jpg http://i62.tinypic.com/20upeli.jpg http://i58.tinypic.com/vyt66g.jpg Bath time: And all the imperfections from 20 plus years of sitting in the garage too http://i1167.photobucket.com/albums/q626/CodysCometGT/20141226_1510291_zpsd2ed6036.jpg
