Hello everyone! I'm running into clearance problems between my new headers and my Oil Filter(only have about 3" between engine and header). I have a setup that will work..but I need to know where to put the remote filter? Everywhere I see has something below it that will make it a messy job to do a Oil Change! There must be someplace to put this thing...any advice would be greatly appreciated! Only place I can see to put it is inside the Drives side fender...any thoughts..Pros...Cons? Where is yours?
I have room for one in front of the wheel well on the driver side (inside the engine bay). I think the washer fluid container 'used' to be there. However..... here it comes... I talked myself out of going with the remote oil filter system. It has SIX leak paths versus only 1 with the stock setup. ref: http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SUM-G4985 I don't know what your application is (drag racing or street or both), but with my 1-3/4" tubes, I run the smaller filter, PH3682 (thanks to Stephen for the info). It is 3" in diameter - just enough clearance. I am thinking of going to this style: ref:http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=FMS%2DM%2D6880%2DA50&N=700+115&autoview=sku Although it adds another potential leak path, it gets the filter away from the header tube by turning the filter 90 degrees and pointed to the front of the engine. It allows the usage of the "regular" size filter also. my
You could also run a filter for a Toyota 22r. You'll lose about 1/3qt. capacity and likely gain the clearance you need.
Best way I ever did it was to mount it on the fender apron. Driver's side. Used a filter mount that had the lines going into the side, as opposed to straight into the bottom of the filter. This way the filter mounts vertically under the mount. Then when you change the oil, you poke a hole in the end of the filter with a pail under it. After a few minutes, the filter is empty. No mess. Then you can also pre-fill the new filter in this position. Here is the mount that worked best for me... They also make the block adapter that puts the hoses in the side too. Using the regular type, the hoses come straight out and can get close to the header in some cases. Straight: Side:
oil filter Use the 90 deg one if at all possible and open up the oil route holes, round off the corners. Less chance for leaks or problems. If you do decide to use the remote setup, use AN #8 fittings and hose. Good place is lower right side of engine compartment behind the radiator. You don't want it where a rock or something else can punch a hole in it. Don't go to a smaller filter, it reduces filtering and flow. That's a last choice decision.
I ran dual remote filters for over 10 years on the street,.never a leak issue, or any other problem, out side of costing more come oil change time. ran them on a comet with them mounted on the lower radiator support area for a few years (only one problem there- bottomed out pulling into a friends drive once and ripped one open[that why I carried extra oil and filters with me then] ) on the maverick I ran them on the drivers side inner fender, just relocated a few things, never had any problems there. if your concerned with making a mess changing filters, slip a plastic bag under them as you loosen it up and remove it, worked for me.
Now there's a testiment for ya. That's a lot of potential leak paths with lots of testing! Was that with the barbed fittings, or AN fittings?
initally it was the barbed fittings that came with the kit...after many many miles and years, I needed to replace the hoses and went to braided lines with AN fittings,...again, no leaks. that isnt to say it cant or wont happen, just my experiances with them. I would run them again in a heartbeat myself and am planning to with the one I'm working on now. oh, and the reason I changed the hoses was due to the outer lining looking brittle, still didnt leak tho.
Make Sure You Dont Let Hoses Flop Around I Had 6 Quarts Of Oil Down The Side Of My Ranger And All Over Windshield What A Mess
Found these on early Ford van's with 460 engine's. May be other application's too. The remote one's just never appealled to me with those hoses. Be sure and get the block adapter also if you find one on a van.
Tell me about it... I ran duals on my 75 at one time. With the 3' of hose, 2 long filters, and the Moroso 10" pan it took a case of oil to do a change. I used barbs on my 75. On my Chebbie version I used AN. I never knew there was an issue with leaks. Never had any or thought about it. I had the straight in single for a while on my 75. The filter mounts on top of that one, so it always made a mess. That is why I swapped to the dual. The price was right and the hoses entered the side. Therefore the filter(s) hung below and the hole trick worked perfect. Like mentioned previous, there are short versions of the FL1A, but there are also long versions. I don't know what vehicle they were for, I just ran across them by accident at NAPA and the counter guys knew just what to grab when I needed more. I have always called the FL1A a 'one quart' filter. Don't know if it's correct. But there are what I called a 'one and a half' and 'two quart' versions too. Moroso sells a version of the 'two quart' too. They are twice as long as a 'regular'. I am pretty sure they were Ford HD truck filters. (This was back before the PSD took over that market) I too also only replaced hoses when the looked like a liability. I takes years though... Dave
I run a dual remote on my 89 Ranger and have no leaks. Use the barbed hose & fittings the kits come with and you will. I use An style hydraulic hose and fittings, this is the same stuff used on heavy equipment hydraulics, many local parts houses make these and to any specs or fittings. The only other leak problem will be from the "O" ring on the block adapter, I wish there was something better to seal that. The ring gets compressed and heated and eventually can fail. In a pinch, I made a replacement from sheet copper and RTV.
I think the problem comes is when you have the Hooker Super Comps (1-3/4" primaries). I still don't like the oil filter being that close to a header that's near glowing red at times.
