Subframe connectors NOW or later...???

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  1. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

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    I think it is bent BECAUSE of the launches in the past. Would launching cause the car to twist in a way that the left rear would be low?

    I was thinking of trying a caltrac-type setup instead of the subframe connectors so I can adjust them in and out, actually use a heim jointed rod as the subframe connectors, but I am afraid that it would probably just make things worse...
     
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    You Have Not Launched It Yet Have You
     
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    I have launched it on spool, 3.80 gears, and 245/60 tires at the track, and several "quick take-offs" with 255/60 tires. I do that quite a bit.

    Only collisions I know of are where great-grandmother drove it against the garage door and drug it down the fender and door doing this damage...

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    Doesn't seem to me like the kind of collision that would bend a frame. I also don't recall it leaning until after I started driving it hard, so I believe that it is bending from the launches...:huh:
     
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    to be honest with you scott.. and no offense.. but i dont think you have near enough the traction or the power to have bent it doing burnouts and launches.

    if you had slicks on it.. and over 350 hp and were running in the 12's you would bend it.. but running in the 14's that you are in.. i doubt it

    i have launched mine good a couple times, and although i havent measured mine, i doubt it is bent that bad.

    i do think that since you know its bent, you should fix it. i gather it is bothering you.. but honestly. i dont think it is totally required right now

    i would go ahead and weld the SFC on now.. and that way it wont get any worse.. and then you can fix it later when you "get around to it"

    hope that helps

    im sure frank is gonna smack his forhead now and say my name three times or something to that effect..


    :)
     
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    Simon, I am agreeing with you to bandaid it now and prevent further bending, regardless if my intense 14s launches are causing it or not.

    But, I really want to make sure (by asking questions) that I won't hurt the structural integrity (I love using that term in a complete sentence, even if it is interrupted by a long, drawn out parenthetical interlude!) of the subframes in the process of multiple welding attempts.

    If I find out that welding on to the subframes, then cutting the connectors off, and rewelding to them again will weaken them up, I won't do it and will just take it easy (NOT!) on the car until I can afford to get it fixed correctly.
     
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    i would just weld them on.. it wont weaken the metal
    welding makes that area stronger
     
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    Scott, may i be Frank with you a moment?
    if so...you ain't going to bend or unbend anything with the setup you have...:sorry: to be the one to have to tell you...:D :rofl2: :biglaugh:

    ...Simon...Simon...Simon...:p
     
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    stmanser Looking for a Maverick

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    Frank must love my name...

    i am thinking he is getting used to saying it and might name a child with my name

    good idea Frank
     
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    Maybe several burn outs in reverse, puts it back straight. Then for every forward burn out, do one in reverse to keep it straight!

    May want to take for alignment and they may tell you it's ok or no as bad as you think. I would get it fixed, at least looked at.
     
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    I LOVE that idea...

    Alignments have been no problem. It alligns just fine. It just leans low on the left rear side the rest of the time...
     
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    tilt your head to the right.. you wont notice the lean
     
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    A good alignment shop doing 4 wheel align should pick out any problem. Are your body bushing all there an good. Did you park on level an measure points on frame an body? Did you do a burn out today????
     
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    i like the way you think dave. i was going to tell him to come to the line and launch in reverse too.:burnout:

    simon, frank may name a kid simon. but i doubt it will be one of his own.:bouncy:
     
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    Frame bent from launches.......

    bbwwwwaaaaahhhhhhhaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaa :rofl2:

    That's some funny sh!t right there!!!! Good one, Scott. Wow....that's almost as funny as Simon thinking he needs a full roll cage for the 12's. Damn....you guys are moonlighting as stand up comics......right????

    Scott, if you're worried so much about your frame then just buy the car sitting in the driveway and swap your stuff over. :cheers:
     
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    OK, so according to you guys, my frame is NOT bent. I will put on the SFCs, keep the 1" drop block on the left side, car looks level, rides level, etc.

    Guess I will need to start ANOTHER new thread about why a car leans, and hopefully, everyone will stay away from "uneven weight distribution" and "move the battery to the other side" as a solution. That is all I got last time before I did this bandaid fix with the drop block.

    I even had a 160 lb friend sit on the right rear fender and it didn't drop the 1" needed to level it out, so "uneven weight distribution" is a BS answer. I would need 300 lbs of weight on the back right corner to even it out, if not more.

    What are BODY BUSHINGS, where are they located? I have never heard of them, so maybe this is the fix I have been looking for...:thumbs2:
     

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