4 Lug vs 5 Lug Axle Bearings

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  1. ratio411

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    Let's see, at junkyard prices:
    Stock 302/C4 = roughly 500 bux
    Disc brakes = 50-100 bux
    8" rear = 75-100 bux

    So, on a bad day, those parts would run 700 bux at a yard.
    No car to bring home and strip, while the neighbors complain.

    I guess it's a wash...
    You would pay the same at a yard, but you don't get the perk of having a whole car to pick little stuff off of. But you keep Momma happy.

    If you get the car, you pay a fair price for what it's got, but Momma's mad. When you are done, you will have extras stripped that you wouldn't get from a yard, and you get a little scrap bonus at the end.

    I think I like the first option better. Same money, Momma's happy, you get what you need, and you can always pick up a stray fender or door panel when needed. Be nice if it were free, but Momma's HAPPY.
    Oh, and I am sure you can track down a 302 Granada/Monarch/Maverick/Comet in a yard closer than 300 miles! Big bonus there with the price of fuel. Forgot that 600 mile part!
     
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    missing my 71 maverick i6 3 on the tree :(
    just another thought, im cleaning house here and im getting ready to junk a 4 lug 8 in from my 71... also have a ranger rear, bronco II rear and a 6cyl granada rear with the cover on the back... i wonder if any of this stuff might work... cant hurt to try right?
     
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    I wouldn't junk that 4-lug rearend. There are guys looking for those too...just not as many. I'm sure you could sell it. I just sold mine for $100 to a guy building a Falcon.
     
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    I know I'm new here, but am in the middle of this swap. at present i can't get drums off the 4 lug. I did this swap many yrs ago on a falcon conv i have. had a 8'' 4 lug. had always heard that the swap could be made. swaped in the must 2 8'' waited till i found a comet/ mav then swapped. It worked and still is. now i have a 8'' out of a grabber,and want to use a 3.55 that is in a must 2 r/e. will get back with this next week. going out of town, or maybe not if drums won't come off. springs are cut all ready.
     
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    couldn't stand it. Went out pulled axle out of must2 r/e pulled axle out of grabber r/e, 5 lug, and swapped . no problem. didn't measure but to naked eye looked the same.
     
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    Are you saying you took a 5 lug axel from a Mustang II and it fit in a 4 lug Maverick 8 inch? Aren't all Mustang II's 4 lug? Something dosen't sound right with that.
     
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    I took a 5 lug axle from a 8'' maverick r/e and installed it in a 8'' must 2 r/e. then took the axle from the must 2, 4 lug and installed it in the mav r/e. they interchanged good. no fitment problems.
     
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    Some one must make a bearing to fit the 5 lug axle in the small (4lug) housing. The reason I say this is because I have a car right now that has the small end 8" (out of a falcon some one told me, it is shaped different than the mav/com rearend) and it has 5 lug axles in it. I think you can probably take those measurements and cross reference it to something they make. Just an idea. Then you could just press new bearings on and be good, not that expensive.
     
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    Yea, but that is a Mustang II. 4 lug and 5 lug axles are not interchangeable between Maverick 8 inch rears, without changing the bearing. I'm also pretty sure that the 4 lug pattern on the Mustang II's is not the same as the 4 lug pattern on Mavericks.
     
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    you win. I was trying to say that a must 2 r/e could be made into a 5 lug using mav/comet axles. don't care about the 4 lug bolt pattern.btw the mus2 had a 3.55 gear. there are lots of axles out there.
     
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    I wasn't trying to win anything. Just trying to discuss the facts as they pertain to this thread. Will the Mustang II housing bolt into a Maverick without modification? How wide is it? The 3.55 ratio was available on '75 and '76 Mustang II's and 3.40 was available on '75-'78 Mustang II's, both in Limited Slip or open configuration. You can certainly find some great gears in those cars.
     
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    the mustang,will bolt right in a falcon. as far as the mav I don't know.
     
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    Are you refering to the entire rear end assembly?

    If so, then yes, the Stang 2 has the same spring perch to spring perch distance.
    However the bearings are small style and the 4 lug bolt pattern is a different measurement than Maverick/Comet 4 lug pattern.

    I would think a reverse version of this swap would benefit a Stang 2 owner wanting 5 lugs. All they would need to do is get a 5 lug Mav rear and bolt it up into their Stang2... as no Stang2s came with 5 lugs.
     
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    Oh, I see... you were responding to Jamie...

    See above...

    The rear will go in, but you would be better off just using the Stang2 chunk in your Maverick housing. That way you can keep your 5 lugs, or keep your 4 lug bolt pattern which is different from the Stang2.
     
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    If this is true... the Stang2 would need big bearings.
    I don't know enough to say one way or the other, but you CANNOT put 5 lug Mav axles in a 4 lug housing from a Mav/Comet, Falcon, Mustang (pre Stang2), etc...
    If the Stang2 will accept a 5 lug axle, it would be the only 4 lug Ford capable of that. Again, I don't know enough about Stang2s to say for sure, but I doubt it. I know about the earlier stuff, and it WON'T swap.
     

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