Fresh thread regarding Marquis Motors for Swap

First off I want to aplogize for starting a new thread, but the other one had a bunch of irrelevent stuff in it that made my question kinda get buried.

Here's my scenario.

I have bought an 84 and an 89 5.0 both out of Marquis

I'm trying to find out this,

For a mild low cost replacement for my 250

Which motor to build?

What carb /intake set up? I found this one http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=SUM-CEDL002KD&autoview=sku Is this a good set up?
Are these good prices
What supplier would you guys recommend

Will the stock cam suffice?

What fuel pump should I use?

Can I use the stock Distributor, from Either Motor, on the Roller?

To get a Duraspark II set up what components will I need?

Can I keep the stock coil?

Is there a lower cost option to the Duraspark set up?

Can I keep the Power streering unit on the motor, or can I use the one on my 250?

Same question for the alternator

From the previous post I have gotten these opinions,

I should definately use the 89 roller for swap,

Replacing the stock heads with E-7 head will give better performance
what applications had E-7 heads and how do I Identfy them ?

If I just keep the stock heads what carb intake would work, is there one that I could put on there then replace heads later?

Looks like I need the 157 tooth 50 ounce flexplate I already know where I can get this about 30 miles from me.

I appreciate all the help just trying to get things organized in one spot so I can get a better Idea of what I need, where I can get it and, what applications to look under to find what I need, i realize I have been kindof all over the map on this , but my motor choices have changed a couople of times.
Thanks for the Patience guys

 

I have a Crown Vic 5.0 that I'm going to use too. Have you thought about keeping the EFI? I'm told that it's not that hard to wire up if you have the harness, but I haven't tried it myself.

I think the answers to the rest of the questions depend on what you're wanting out of it.

 

Well I just want a nice daily driver mild build, Cost is my biggest factor at this point but I'd like to buy components that would be good for a mild build now but still be good later if I decide to " beef it up" a little more I wont have the EFI wiring etc
I'm told that a carb set up is the least expensive route, so for now thats where I am heading,

 

Summit intakes are questionable as far as quality is concerned.
E7's are found in 88-93 Mustangs, and similar years F150's etc with the 5.0 HO engine.
Stock cam is kinda weak, but if you use the roller block, you can swap to a E or B cam.
I'd use an electric fuel pump, maybe Holley Blue or equivalent.
I think the distributor will have a different gear composition on the non-roller compared to the roller. But you should be able to buy the gear and use the non-roller distributor on a roller block.
I used a HEI conversion distributor on my engine, some people don't like it because it looks GM, but I paid 49.99 for it, and It's a all in one unit.

I'm sure someone else will chime in and correct anything I'm wrong about. Hopefully this info helps you some.

 

Is your car column shift or floor shift? I don't think (I could be wrong) that the 89 block has the hole for the shifter linkage stud? Does the 89 front engine cover have the fuel pump opening? If not you could use the front cover from the 84.
E7TE heads have E7TE cast into them on the underside of the exhaust port, you may have to remove the manifolds to see it.

 

DO you mean I can ( possibly) use the front cover from the 84 so I can use a mechanical Fuel pump instead of electric?

My Car has a c-4 with shifter on the column, am I ok?

Eddie
So if I was ordering these heads or buying used ones Mustang HO 302 from years 88-93

"Also I used a HEI conversion distributor on my engine, some people don't like it because it looks GM, but I paid 49.99 for it, and It's a all in one unit."

I just drop in this HEI distributor and I don't have an Igintion module or anything else to buy? How is it wired up? What application do I buy it for?

 

Eddie one other thing, suggestions on a supplier and intake combo set up ?

 

are 74's already wired up with duraspark? if so i think a v8 DS dizzy can plug into the existing harness

efi seems like a headache. between the $400 aftermarket harness and custom shock tower struts and getting it all working i think id jusrather have a 4bbl

 

If the front cover on the 84 has the dipstick, and the fuel pump boss, then you can use it on the 89 and use a mechanical fuel pump. Do you know where the shifter linkage stud screws into the block? have a look at the 89 block and see whats there, if it is, then you could still use your column shifter depending upon what headers you use (if you use headers). Carb and Intake should be matched to whatever the cam is.

 

Ok I don't have the motors yet , he is delivering them on 4-19
Both cars have column shifters so wouldn't that answer the other question?
if it doesn't have the places to attach the shifter linkage stud screws into the block would I need to convert to a floor shifter?
How do I tell what intake and carb would go with the stock cam? For that matter if I put in a new Cam how do I buy a Cam intake Carb set up?

New To Ford my 74 has points currently

 

Dave do you have picts of the front cover with the fuel pump, So I can picture what you mean better?

 

Supposedly you can use the factory harness for this. Like I said earlier, I haven't done it yet - I've only read about it. Custom shock tower struts?

You'll have to do something - without the stud the shifter will be extremely sloppy and probably wouldn't work. If you don't want to convert to floor shift then maybe you could fab up a bracket to replace the stud?

 

the shock tower braces, from the shock towers to the fire wall, theres no way they will clear a factory EFI intake manifold.

im willing to bet that for a mild daily driver your going to be perfectly happy with the stock cam

 

I am leaning towards this

For now
Just keep the stock heads, keep stock cam, buy an intake and carb.. ( which ones??)

I'll buy the simpliest ignition set up I can If that HEI set up works I'd go with that.

I am really going low budget I already have the boost in power that comes with the v-8 over the 250, yeah I know I lose some in the extra weight of a v-8 over the 250 but seems to me I will still see better seat of the pants performance by plopping that 5.0 in there. Better heads, betterr cam etc can coem down the road.

That being said the hardest thing I am finding is how do I match up a carb and intake for the stock set up that was EFI?

I'll check into the Shift linkage mounting

SO right now i know

I'll need
Carb/intake
Radiator
50 oz 157 tooth flywheel
Maybe an electric fuel pump (what flow rating? )
Some sort of Distributor/ ELectroinc ignition set up? how do I tell what application to buy for?
Get the C-4 beefed up from it's stock 250 Inline specs
Am I missing anything ... LOL

Any better ideas on how to proceed i'd listen to, I value all the opinions i can get here

 

Yes on the heads, 88-93 Mustang 5.0 HO have E7TE heads.

As far as the HEI unit:
You don't need an ignition module it's all built into the unit. One wire for power and thats it.

Here is a pic of my engine with it installed