problem starting car

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  1. duster70

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    car wont start! I had just changed the oil on the car (i put a different kind of oil than it is supposed to have, I dont think this is the problem though) I fixed the gas tank leak and the car has gas, but the battery isnt charged (was brand new too, I probably wasted it by trying to start the car too much) When I charge the battery with my dads truck, most of the time it wont start. When it does, it stays on for a while then the idle starts going slower then it just dies. When I try turning it on, its not like before. Intead of the whole engine trying to start on while I turn the key, the engine tries, but then all you hear is the alternator or something whirring. The fan on the engine barely turns when I try to start the car. Before when the car didnt want to start, the engine will be trying to start(this meaning the fan would keep spinning too) now the fan doesnt spin for crap. All you hear is something whirring, dont know what it is! When the car does start, it seems like the fan is going slower than normal. heres another thing. from the past times, it seems like the car wont start unless I have the gas tank filled up to the first line of the gas gauge. maybe its just my imagination. help please!!!! thanks!!!!:tiphat:
     
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    The whirring sounds like the starter is going out.

    As far as starting up and dieing, have you tried to give it a little gas? Have you looked to see what the choke is doing?
     
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    yea I have tried giving it a little bit of gas Thats the only way it will turn on sometimes. What is the choke? the little plate that closes and opens on the carburetor? Do i need a new starter then? What else can it be? another little note. I messed around a bit with the carburetor. There is some big knob thing that says climate control and I kinda turned it a bit to see what it does. Didnt see any difference. Whats it for? COuld this be why it didnt turn on. ahhh another thing I did. A friend told me to pour gas into the carburetor. I did this and the car had no gas in the tank becuase of the leak. Maybe this is why it wont start either. Maybe I poured to much gas or something. Other than that, I havent done anything else to car.
     
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    Sounds to me like your not getting any fuel-If in fact the car has started in the past then slowly idles down and then dies. I have had a similar problem with mine after it has sat for a while. My carb got all gumbed up. I had to spray it down real good with carb/choke cleaner, then lubricate everything. Even then it was out of adjustment so I had to fool with the air/fuel mix and the choke to get it running. You can try starting the car while a friend sprays starting fluid into the carb. If the car runs off of this but then dies after the spray stops then you know that your not getting any fuel into the carb. You can try this over and over while adjusting the mix on the carb until the car idles off of the gas. Just don't blow yourself sky-high. By the way, did you check to see if the plugs are fowled up? :huh:
     
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    Do not do this. A quick 2 second shot of starting fluid is fine to simply rule out that it's not getting gas, but do not sit there and run the car off the stuff. It'll wash down the cylinder walls and eat the rings.

    If the car started after dumping the gas down the carb, then it's fine. If it didn't, your plugs are probably fouled. You need to go back to the basics, if it's getting air, fuel and ignition, it will run.
     
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    Starters are super cheap. Just to let you know.

    and my car did that for a day or 2. Until the timing chain broke, which bent a rod and all hell broke loose
     
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    Whoa, I didn't mean drown the thing in it! Just long enough to get it going. If the engine shuts down shortly after the spray stops I'd say start looking for a fuel feed problem. I certainly don't want anybody jacking up their ride.
     
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    Na. Its all good. The motor had a weak rod. and that is what caused it so i rebuilt it.
     
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    check out ur spark plug wires, spark plugs and the distrubitor mine had a problem like that and my distryubitor cap was turned the wrong way from the people who had it befor me :slap: , the firing order was wrong, and my spark plugs had oil on them ( from trying to start it so much when all that was wrong and u also said u have been trying to start it and it wont) thats all i can think of besides the fuel like everyone else says when mine was broke sometimes it would start then the engine would get real shakey then it would die and whits smoke would come out of the carb thats why i now need to buy a new one.

    good luck
     
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    thanks all fo the help. how do i know if its the spark plugs? what kind of fluid do i need??? Where is the choke thing????:tiphat: another thing. the only time the car was used is on the weekends. i just turned it on and drove it on my yard (dont have good brakes to drive on street) So its always sitting for the whole week. dont know if this helps thanks!!!!
     
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    the choke is the black circle on the back of ur carborator and check ur spark plugs for cut and stuff like that also you can put the coil wire on the manifoild and turn the engine over. if ur getting spark it will spark. but i know you are getting spark because ur engine is turning over some times but i just wanted to let you know:D
     
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    also they were talking about carb cleaner u can buy it at auto zone u spray it in there and it will clean out all the junk inside
     
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    Actually the black circle thing is just what controls the choke and is where you can adjust it. The choke is the metal flap at the top of the carb when you take the air cleaner off.

    For as much as plugs and wires cost, I think I would just to ahead and replace them so you can atleast eliminate that possibility.

    If the carb has problems, spraying carb cleaner down it isn't going to truly fix anything. Take it apart and blow out all the passages and make sure the jets and everything are clear. Carb cleaner and starting fluid can be bought pretty much anywhere.
     
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    yup i was just saying autozone because i dident want to name all the places and i thought he wanted to know how to adjust the choke and i am with him on the plugs
     
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    no start problem spark plugs

    No offence to duster70 but it sounds as if he may be a novist, and may need more of an indepth description on what to do.

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    Is the yellow arow like what you turned?
    If it is and you turned it to far counter clockwise the choke (red arow) will not open. The motor may start like this but will flood out the motor.
    To readjust:
    1.start with a cold motor.
    2.loosen the 3 screws and turn it clockwise till the choke opens part way.
    3.turn counter clockwise untill choke closes.
    4.turn clockwise untill choke just starts to open.
    5.tighten 3 screws.

    Now charge your battery. and replace the spark plugs and spark plug wires, distributor cap/rotor, as has been sugested already.
     

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