differences in pitman arm...

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  1. safado

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    Hey fellas, So I am finally getting around to installing the manual center link and pitman arm from rare parts on my power steering 76.... well with the hooker headers the room to use a pitman arm puller is nil... I ended up loosening the header at the head and collector to get a clear shot at it.. Well with it finally out I go ahead and install the new one and that's when I find out the plined hole is smaller in size... it won't even remotely engage the splines... while the old one slides right on..

    At this point, I don't know if the steering box has been changed on the car or if the part is machined out wrong or its just a year change thing... the pitman arm is the 20130 which according to Oriellys is 1.125 at the splines.. I haven't gone back home to measure the one I have... any insight from the veterans?
     

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    The pitman arm will only fit 4 ways. Are you sure you aligned the wide tooth on the splines?

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    I put the new arm up to the shaft and slowly rotate it the full sweep and it never engages the splines.. I do the same with the old arm and it drops into place
     
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    Maverick uses same boxes as the '68-'71 Torino, Fairlane, Cyclone etc, all should be same size so I'm assuming your replacement is incorrect... I've swapped a manual arm on a P/S sector, with no issue...
     
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    I'm looking to see if I ordered the wrong part or if it was mis-packaged or mis- machined. .. I measured from missing spline to missing spline...
     

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    I checked Ford's Master Parts catalog but there isn't enough info to determine sizes on the '69-'71 models... Best info I could come up with is Ford apparently upped the ID from 1" to 1.125" in '67...
     
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    It has to be the wrong one sent out or machined wrong...

    Just Suspension doesn't do phone calls... everything is through email... If I would have known that I probably wouldn't have bought from them.. lets see now how this plays out.
     
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    so coming on the third day, and everyone keeps focusing that the car is factory power and the parts i bought are manual.. So I have to explain that I am purposely converting the car over to manual and the reason I bought these parts.. this is the last time I buy from Just Suspension.. there resolution process is just too slow... more time is taken writing emails, than it would have taken with one phone call...
     
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    if any cares.... just suspension still hasn't shipped out the new pitman arm, and at first wanted me to pay for the second one and then get a refund for the first one once they received it.... also Rare parts verified that there is a bad batch of the pitman arms... so it continues....
     
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    As a FYI I poked around in Hollander Interchange manual and starting '68 all the steering boxes for Fairlane, Falcon Torino, Maverick, Granada* etc are same... Of course there are different ratios for the P/S vs manual boxes, but externally are identical...

    Unfortunately Hollander doesn't cover Pittman Arms...

    *There is a exception on Granada for the P/S boxes '76-'80, dunno what that difference is... The manual boxes are same as back to the '68 models I listed above...

    The 1" vs 1.125" shaft boxes applies ONLY to Mustang, all the intermediates, Falcon and Mav have the 1.125 shaft box(that are different from Mustang 1.125" boxes)...
     
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    I ended up calling Rare Parts, and begged them to see if they could do the exchange.. once they saw that not even them had a good phone number for the crackheads at Just Suspension, Glen took charged and is shipping a new Pitman arm and then actually called back later in the day to confirm that UPS had picked it up and called me back today that I should have it tomorrow... So, let see what happens.... Thanks for the research Tom!!!!!!
     
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    Well good luck, hope it's correct...

    The Maverick manual steering box actually dates back to the '62-'64 Fairlane... Hollander doesn't list a a P/S specific box till '65 and it's also same one used in Maverick/Comet... The '66-'67 Falcon and Fairlane are in their own category as some of those used a solid steering shaft instead of the rag joint coupling... Otherwise boxes are same as earlier and later year Fairlanes,. pre '66 Falcons used their own specific box...

    I once swapped a '67 Falcon solid shaft over to the '68 rag joint box, also had to use the '68 steering column...
     
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    Safado,

    I ran into the exact same problem this evening. I purchased Rare Parts pitman arm #20130 and the thing is to small to spline on the gearbox. What happened after they sent you the new one?

    Aaron
     
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    Sounds like that part was a reBox item. When ever a parts manufacturer would buy another company out. They would rebox that companies parts in there boxes.
     

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