Control Valve rebuild

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  1. Jett

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    Hi all!

    All the sudden my steering which was fine just starting to give, I looked at it, my control vavle seam to be slightly leaking and I've tested it with pressure (engine on) and there's some give, so instead of buying a new one I was thinking about rebuilding it. CJ Pnoy has a very good step by step video. Now my question is "did a 60's Mustang had the same Control Valve? And if so would CJ Pony rebuild kit do the trick?
    http://www.cjponyparts.com/power-steering-control-valve-repair-kit-1964-1970/p/CVK/

    If not any recommendations?

    Autozone has a Duralast and... Well it's Duralast... http://www.autozone.com/suspension-...control-valve-kit/21507_0_3586/?checkfit=true

    Or this on ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/AC-Delco-Po...ash=item1c4e1a8a46:g:ce0AAOSwbsBXptwm&vxp=mtr

    But both the Duralast and AC Delco seams to not have the sping in the Kit???

    Any thoughts?

    Bonus question, how tough is it and do you guys think I should just buy a new one instead?

    Thanks guys!
     
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    AFAIK the valves are basically all same (internally at least), just get a kit that includes all the parts and have at it... I'll bet there is only one kit supplier and everyone else just puts their name on it...

    BTW for ebay kit, isn't that the spring in upper right by the cap O-ring???
     
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    I would not buy a NEW one, as more than likely it will be the wrong one. Either rebuild yours.....or send yours to Rode's Restoration and have them rebuild it for you.
     
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    I was told by Rode's Restoration that they are all different from each other from model to model.
     
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    Thanks for the advice, you're right! I thought it looked like a big threaded part but there's none in the kit so it's a spring haha
     
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    I was aiming this way hard anyway so thank you for comforting me in my choice!
     
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    My '68-'69 Fairlane valves are apparently same as my Comet, at least I'll rebuild with same kit... For Mav/Comet and likely Granada, the lines use O rings instead of flares from middish '76 but internally valve are still same... My '72 valve is a mix of the best parts from a '77 Maverick and the original...
     
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    I seem to recall they told me the rebuild kits will work, but the cylinder length is different and the angles where the hoses go in are slightly different as well. It was a long time ago when I talked to them about it.
     
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    Uhhh, I suspect the hose hard ends are formed to fit the valve, not the opposite... Galaxie stuff is probably different but AFAIK the '66-up Fairlane/Falcon and '67-up Mustang use same valves as mav/comet..

    When I get a chance I'll compare that '77 valve with my Fairlane stuff... Maybe in next few minutes... I'm waiting on a guy coming to pull a turbo 4cyl from my last parts T-Bird... He's already late but it's paid for, so I'll go do something else...
     
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    Thanks, I looked around at all the different brands selling the kit for cars in those years and they all have the exact same picture as yes, they all just repack and sell the exact same one lol! So I have ordered a rebuilt Kit and will keep you guys posted.

    Good luck on the turbo thing, even if the dude is making you wait (that sucks) at least he already paid you!
     
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    Well the turbo guy showed up just after my post yesterday, so was last night when I compared the '77 valve with a '68 Torino valve... Looks same to me... Guess I'll find out when I start the rebuild...
     
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    well same thing here, I'm receiving the rebuilt kit on thursday and will see if it's a match!
     
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    So I've received the kit and I'm at the point of getting the vavle out of my car buuuuut one of the steering fluid line is stuck like stuck stuck! The bolt wont move an inch, I've tried socking it with PB Blaster, taping on it, hammering on the side, forcing on the wrench with a pipe acting as a lever but all is doing is starting to round the bolt which I don't want to do.

    So apart from heat, any idea?

    And if heat is the only option, is it ok to do so on a bolt holding a fluide line into a valve?
     
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    IMG_6132.JPG Update, so I've managed to get the part out (fighting40 years of road dirt and rust) and took it apart and back together with the kit.

    But when I took it out first, the ball stud stayed stuck in and now that I have the Valve ready to be installed again I have to fight this thing, the CJ Pony tutorial video about redoing that part mentioned this could happen and their solution is not very DIY as it requires multiple pneumatic tools.

    Any tips outside of the regular PB Blaster and brut force? Should I buy a small torch and heat it up?

    Thanks!!!
     
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