aftermarket suspension

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  1. Zoidberg

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    I am looking into setting up my suspension for a slight drop in the front and stiffer springs is there a good aftermarket company or any other ford cars that would swap right over
     
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    check out the jeff ford posting he has lots of neat stuff like that
     
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    Two 1973 LDO Mavericks (one 4 Drag one 4 driving like Mad on the roads :) ) also have a 75 6cyl Stock! Ok, well sort of Stock :P
    mustangs use alot of the same suspention parts. you can find lots at any mustang parts house like musatngs unlimited or mustangs puls (which sometimes have cheaper prices)

    good luck
     
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    The cheapest way to go is to rebuild your original and get drop springs (not a fan of cutting springs but that is a partial option. The drop is where you start to run into issues. Camber can't be adjusted to get the tire to it flat after a certain point and bump steer becomes an issue. This generally gets bad after a 1-inch drop. Before that its more manageable--but hard to get done. Alignment shops aren't keen on shimming control arms because its labor intensive and quite frankly most of the "young guns" don't even know how to do it.

    The following suspension componients will interchange from the Mustang line:
    '68-'73 Lower
    '67-'73 Upper
    '67-'73 Spring seat
    '70-'73 Outer tie rod end (manual and power)
    '70 Inner manual and power

    I don't have any info on the steering stuff though I have heard of guys using the Granada (good luck finding it) power steering parts.

    The RRS stuff that Mavaholic mentioned is something to check out. RRS offers a complete conversion (for Mavericks and Comets) that has a McPherson strut and complete PBR disc brake set up. Goes from mild to wild.

    www.rrs-online.com

    Also Check out Total control products, Mustangs Plus and Global West

    For Mustang II front ends look to Rod and Custom Motorsport.

    Jeff
     
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    Maverick Man The Original Maverick Man

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    Two 1973 LDO Mavericks (one 4 Drag one 4 driving like Mad on the roads :) ) also have a 75 6cyl Stock! Ok, well sort of Stock :P
    yeah but how much? 1k? 2k? more then my mavericks worth, an arm a leg or other such body pats? :D but really how much.
     
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    Mr Yee I presume?

    I know you! Glad to see that someone at Primedia finally allowed an Editor to do your Mav justice. I SO wanted to put that bad boy on the cover when I was in the big chair. Alas, I was kicked to the curb before I could do it.

    The stuff Starts at $2660 for the lightweight kit and goes up from there. Its not cheap but you get the brakes and the struts together. When you add up a new front end--with the old stuff still on board-- you are nearly there anyway.

    I can say that it ain't for everyone. But it s VERY cool and an easy bolt in that will net better handling from any unitbody Ford we cover.

    Jeff Ford
     
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    Two 1973 LDO Mavericks (one 4 Drag one 4 driving like Mad on the roads :) ) also have a 75 6cyl Stock! Ok, well sort of Stock :P
    lol! i thought that was you! i mean tons of people named Jeff but Jeff Ford.. i knew it! but yeah thanks for the notion! when it happened i was like where you go. but never the less i see you got smart and bought a comet / maverick :p i'm sorry.. :biglaugh: but trust me i couldn't belive it either when i saw it on the cover.

    so whats it gonna take to get a deal on these coil overs :D ? before i slap on another set of wilwoods on my other car and do it the mickey mouse way!

    anyways good to hear from you!
     
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    so would i want to look for springs from the 68-73 mustangs also? and would they fit right into my stock setup? my comet is a 77 with the disk front already i figure ill just upgrade my calipers when the time comes i'm on quite a budget. thanks for the info.
     
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    He said he wanted a "slight" drop. I dropped mine about 1-5/8" (one full coil) and it pulled right into alignment with no problems whatsoever. Cutting springs is far less expensive than buying drop coils, and it's a trial-and-error thing because you never know exactly how much it's going to drop, until the springs are installed and the car sits overnight. You can always cut more off, but ya can't put it back on if it drops too much without starting over with new springs. Stock springs are only about $60 for the pair, but if you spend $200-$300 for a set of drop coils and the stance is not what you wanted, you're going to be dissapointed...
     
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    TL is right.

    You can do it that way and come out fine. But camber can still be an issue--its less of one at 1-inch but becomes a definate issue at 2-inch and over.

    The major advantage to the cut and see method is less expense--but what is your time worth? Especially if it isn't short enough. There's a lot of work there if you are not happy with the ride height. It also increses the spring rate slightly.

    The advantage to a pre-set coil is that the spring rate is a "known" the disadvantage is that the coils are typically more harsh that stock giving that racer car/buckboard feel. The disadvantage, as TL said is cost.

    So its kinda up to you. If you have more money than time our stuff could be cool snce you get brakes and adjustable struts--but it is expensive. If you have more time than money then TLs method is definately the way to go.

    Jeff
     
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    I think that if you really want to slam it (more than an inch or inch and-a-half), then drop spindles are probably the way to go. Cutting coils (or drop coils) is fine for just a slight drop, which is what I wanted. I'm not building a low-rider here...;)
     
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    WOW, those kits are pretty awesome. Thats cool that someone makes a bolt in rack and pinion kit

    Now how about a bolt in MII kit
     
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    I got my springs from PST. 2 inches lower & alot stiffer. They said the springs are stiffer because the suspension is not able to move as much. They work great. With 17 inch wheels.
     
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    How can I get prices on some of their stuff? I would like to know the price on the rack...

    thanks!
     
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    We'll never see a bolt in Mustang II. The chassis just isn't designed for it. So, though the II is an excellent alternative to the stock stuff if you want a big engine bay it will always require welding.

    The RRS suspension does not require welding--unless you are using the shock tower notching kit.

    With the shock tower notching kit RRS offers a solution to the limited engine bay space. With the use of the shock tower notching kit (has to be used in conjuction with the strut and brake kits) you can pick up some serious room in the engine bay of a Maverick or Comet--enough that we are planning a 5.4 for the '71 Comet we are building. This also keeps the shock towers (which are a major part of the frame) in place but hogs them out.

    As for the rack and pinion RRS USA is sending the '71 Comet to the home office in Australia to have the rack set up and fitted soon. So we're looking at roughly four months after the car gets to Australia to have the rack ready to go. Hopefully I can get the title issue worked out and have the car on the way by mid to late-August.

    Price will probably be $2050--the same price as a 68 Mustang rack from RRS. :clap:

    Jeff Ford
    CEO Sales and Marketing RRS USA :bananaman
     

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