Cutting springs (another question)

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  1. |MaverickMat|

    |MaverickMat| '74 Grabber

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    So my new variable rate coil springs arrived today in the mail. Powder coated blue, oh they're so sweet :bananaman! I have been considering removing part of or all of a coil to get my front down a little, and I had assumed that it would increase the spring rate. I stumbled upon some literature today that said it would actually reduce my rate. Now, I know that it would not affect the higher end of my rate (390lbs - 520lbs) except that maybe I would get there faster, but I would hate to go any lower than 390lbs on the lower end. Can anybody tell me if this is acurate or not? Does cutting a coil reduce your rate, and if so is it possible to tell how much? Thanks!
    MJ
     
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    I don't know about variable-rate springs, but cutting standard springs does not reduce the spring rate...
     
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    On variable rate springs the top and bottom coils are wound at a different rate than the middle. The ends are at a higher rate because the windings are wound in a smaller arc. When you cut it down you are losing the highest force of the spring - if you cut it with a torch you are likely ruining them all together. If you wanted shorter springs why didn't you order them? Can you return the new ones and get a set for a six cylinder? They would sag a bit under the load of the V8 and it would sit about 2 inches lower.
     
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    |MaverickMat| '74 Grabber

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    Unfortunately, no one that I could find offers lowered variable rate springs. I tried ordering some 1" lowered springs from Mustangsplus, but they put me on hold for two months with no explanation, so I finally canceled my order. I'll ask the company I got them from and see if they can maybe make me some lowered springs.
     
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    The springs I bought arent wound any different from top to bottom. Matter of fact, you can't tell which is top or bottom. They looked like they were cut from stock.

    I could drop maybe 3" my self.
    I THINK T.L. is right and it will only change my height if I were to cut my standard (W/302) springs.
    Now you guys have given me an itch.
     
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    Matt, I have a set of 1" drop springs for a '71 mustang for grabs, they're 550# rate.
     
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    Thanks for the offer, Bruce, but I think I'm gonna give these springs a whirl and see how they fit. I got them from Pro-Motorsports, thru Dr. Gas, and I think they might have built a little bit of a drop into them. It's not much tho, and it'd be nice to put a little more in. Another question; (not to hijack my own thread, but...) does the Shelby 1" drop lower your front end, or does it simply affect handling characteristics?
     
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    Yes , The Shelby Upper Control arm relocation mod does lower your car relative to the suspension - your ride height will be lower without touching the springs. A spring with a 1" drop over stock will lower it even more.
     
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    I cut the 550lbs springs that I ordered. It ended up being to high in the front. It rides good & handles great & I have a 225/45/17 on the front witch is a thin tire.
     
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    You should not cut the end of the spring that is flat - it`s designed to sit flat against the underside of the shock tower along with the rubber insulator .
    The bottom of the coil spring ( the end that you cut ) - goes against the stop in the lower spring perch. This will give you maximum stability and true spring rate.
     
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    Good looking out MTRHED...I don't know what I was thinking, must have had a brain fart. Don't do what I said. I will edit that if I can. I just cut the top of the springs.
     
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    Mavaholic Growing older but not up!

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    I would not use those. They will not sit properly in the top saddle.
     

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