You can keep the towers if you install a 70 Mustang front subframe assembly and towers. This will allow you to use off the shelf headers, big radiator, etc... The only thing extra you have to do is use more backspace in your front rims to get the tires tucked into the Mav fenders. This pic is the only I have of this mod. Personally, I think they could have done a much cleaner job. However I can't talk... I don't have the dough to go as far as they did. The thing I REALLY appreciate about this mod is that someone with enough dough could put an SOHC 427 or Boss 429 into a Mav (with B429 repop towers), and look totally stock! FE and late DOHC are also options if you went this route. It would be at LEAST as much work as an M2 install, however the load would be spread out through the unibody better than the M2.
that wouldnt be a bad idea for a W or a C i look at it like this power to weight ratio a W or C can make gobs of HP and weight less than a 460 could ever dream of
I must be slipping in my old age, didnt even notice that little jab there .. ,.... oh well, yes, thats true though, a WELL built small block can walk over a big block, no question. look at those pro 5.0 cars. stroked with a big turbo....they fly but then,.... its hard to match the "ooooh aaaahhh" factor of a blown injected boss engine in almost anything :evilsmile
hell it doesnt even need to be in a car it can just sit there on the engine stand and hear ooooooh aaaahhh
Wow. I think that falls under the 'if you're not even going to attempt to do it right, maybe you just shouldn't do it' category. I would not want that car anywhere near me on the road.
not to be a "who ha" but that car runs 12s i believe which is over 100mph i would say its very unstable at 10mph my god was the tech at the track stevie wonder how did it pass :16suspect
There are pics on my post of the M11 i did on my car or if you want pics i will send them to you ....just search under 460.....barry
awesome Very good guys you all really make the diference in a stock engine and a mod one, thanks for the posibilities.
This is kind of funny we recently had this argument with a few of the local 5.0 bums.So what do you do to settle an argument? Prove them wrong!! So i took my friends 460 with aluminum heads and intake and i took one of my 351w's to work and put each one on a shipping scale.The 460 only weighed 17lbs more than the windsor! So if you pulled a 351w out and put a aluminum head 460 in wouldent it weigh the same or very close? so in all thery you would have a far greater power to weight ratio. 351 crate engine 385hp 460 crate engine 535hp kind of a no brainer there.
LOL I would bet I could make 550HP out of a small block for the same or less money it took to bild that 460 and put in a m2 front end. My 95 mustang with a 302 has 500 HP at the flywheel. And If you put similiar parts on the 2 motors the the small block will always weigh less!
Very true the small block would weigh less with aluminum heads and similar parts.I'm not trying to start a pissing contest here just stating a point.And since were on the subject of dollar for power here i built a 460,cast heads[1971 lincon] 8.2:1 STOCK bottom end fresh rings hone job in my driveway,fresh bearings,rpm cam rpm intake,750 dp,3000 convertor,456 gears,put it in my 1979 Fairmont,it went 11.55 @ 115 mph shifting at 6000 rpm going through the end at 6500,between the engine and swap kit i had $3200 in the whole drivetrain.Pulled the engine and trans from the rusty fox body and put it in my 1964 pick up,it weighs 4200 lbs and it runs 12.61 @109.This combo is now 8 years old and running strong.Ther is no way in hell a high winding little 302 can deal with 520 ftlbs of torque.If i felt it was at all possible to take a 302 or even a 351w and put a intake,cam and convertor in it and it would push my pig of a truck to mid 12's i would do it.I just can't see it happening.
Seen it happen for dirt cheap. My buddy built a 351w w/ a big cam (forgot specs) a C4, 3.00 gears and it ran 11.8x's in the 1000' IIRC This was in a 66 F-100. With a converter and some gears it would have easily moved it. Im not arguing w/ you over big block vs small block Just saying Ive seen it done cheap I have the same 66 F-100 and put a 390 FE w/ just a small cam and 3.70 gears and a C6 and it ran right with it
Part for part comparison, the small block will ALWAYS weigh less. You correct! However, part for part again, the big block will ALWAYS make more power, and more importantly, GOBS more torque. Therefore HP becomes a non-issue! If you are making 10 hp per pound of vehicle weight, then that is what you are making in terms of power to weight ratio. No matter engine. Then add in that the BB is going to have more brute torque per cube than the small block. More torque gauranteed no matter the HP per cube of either engine. The long stroke will put it there no matter what. Dave
Another way to look at it: It takes 10 rwhp to push 100 lbs added weight and retain the same ET... I think we can all agree that the BB is always going to weigh 100 lbs more than a similarly equipped SB. I also think we can all agree that the BB is going to make 100 hp more than a similar small block. SO... The BB will need 10 more hp than the SB to be as fast... Therefore our theoretical BB will NET 90 hp over the theoretical SB.
I guess we should have started a new thread here,sorry about the hi jack.I do the same to my wife,she starts talking and i drift off somewhere else.
