power to manual steering...

Discussion in 'Technical' started by scooper77515, Oct 20, 2006.

  1. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    That is not the same as the Manual Adapter from AutoKrafters, is it?

    It just seems that I should be able to get all my parts from the donor... :huh:
     
  2. Grabber5.0

    Grabber5.0 Gear-head wannabe

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    2,199
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    127
    Location:
    Kansas City, MO
    Vehicle:
    71 Grabber
    You're getting off-track Scott... Yes, you get all of the parts from the donor car. All you need is the centerlink and everything that directly attaches to it (inner tie rod ends and pitman arm). Steering box is optional.

    He is talking about something that replaces the control valve assembly and keeps your existing power steering center link.
     
  3. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    Oh...it started to sound non-stock and more like that AutoKrafter's part. If I could afford that, I would stick with my parts and just swap that out.
     
  4. jayman

    jayman Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2002
    Messages:
    430
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    92
    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Vehicle:
    69.5 Maverick/72 Grabber
    Hi. I have attached a picture of one of these adapters installed. The car is running 225/60/15's on the front and 265/70/14's on the rear. The girl who drives this POS is 5'1", 100 lbs. and has no problems driving this car. Even Parallel parking it in fairly tight spots. I am sure that you will have no problems.

    BTW, the car has no "on-center" wander anymore.(y)

    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]http://mmb.maverick.to/gallery/showimage.php?i=2796&c=8
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Oct 31, 2006
  5. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    I just looked up how much of a hassle and how expensive it will be to buy new parts all the way around through AutoKrafters. Not really bad, All can be had for around $300 (no ms box).

    That adapter looks pretty good. Did you keep the PS box on it? And, how big are the girl's arms...can you post a pic of that? She could be 100 lbs but have 20 lb Popeye arms... :D
     
  6. jayman

    jayman Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2002
    Messages:
    430
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    92
    Location:
    San Diego, Ca
    Vehicle:
    69.5 Maverick/72 Grabber
    I kept the power steering box and pitman arm. I just removed the power steering control valve, hoses and pump and installed the adapter.

    Kristi is very petite. No Popeye arms here. :D
     
  7. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    That looks good. I have purchased (or am in the process of purchasing) a complete set that I found. I figure I will replace what needs replacing to make it look original. And tight. I want to experiment using both the manual and power box and maybe even get pseudo-scientific and actually measure the amount of torque it takes to turn the wheel with each, for future reference.

    I have a fairly small steering wheel, fairly wide tires, and that will make for more difficult steering. I might put my torque wrench on the center nut and measure how much it takes to move the wheels with both boxes, to at least give a pretty good estimate, maybe a percentage increase in ease, between the two boxes.

    I tend to do all my projects this way. The hard way, then change it up to see what I like best, plus I learn by doing, and will someday be able to tell someone "It is exactly 12% harder to turn with the Power box" rather than, "well my wife can turn it", or "it SEEMS easy to turn".

    Not trying to be a smarta$$...I just really enjoy working on this car and learning from what I do. And, I usually learn the hard way what NOT to do in the future :yikes:
     
  8. sierra grabber

    sierra grabber Certifiable

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2005
    Messages:
    2,808
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    northern nevada
    Vehicle:
    71 grabber red and black; 74 2dr LDO comet
    jayman,
    did you have pics and info on the setup for eliminating the power steering pump for that? i probably missed them ;)
     
  9. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    Pic is on page one, but link is not hyper texted. I will try to fix it here.

    100_6932.JPG
     
  10. Scootermagoo

    Scootermagoo Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2006
    Messages:
    151
    Likes Received:
    7
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Portland Oregon
    Vehicle:
    1973 Ford Maverick Grabber ginger & white factory 302 c-4 car LDO package
    all I used was a stock manual steering pitman and center link matched the inner tie rods and was off and running the pitman and center link are upsidedown from manual to power steering need both pieces or it wont work

    I had power steering on my mav with the new motor and the 6000 rpm redline it ripped the bracket off the frame (it was welded and bolted down there is still a welded piece on the frame rail with the bolt hole from the bottom ripped completely out )
     
  11. sierra grabber

    sierra grabber Certifiable

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2005
    Messages:
    2,808
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    northern nevada
    Vehicle:
    71 grabber red and black; 74 2dr LDO comet
    bringing back the dead on this, scott i mean the pic of the alternator bracket and pulleys not the undercar. thanks though
     
  12. CaptainComet

    CaptainComet Large Member

    Joined:
    Mar 18, 2007
    Messages:
    5,008
    Likes Received:
    447
    Trophy Points:
    438
    Location:
    Clearwater, FL
    Vehicle:
    72 Comet
    Pulleys

    Sierra,

    On my car I went from 302/AC/PS to a 351W just turning a water pump and alternator. After some junkyard scrounging, I found a water pump pulley on a '70s or '80s F350 truck that had two grooves and this allowed me to use the forward groove on it to drive the water pump. Then I just had to go track down the right length V-belt at the local parts store.

    Sorry I don't have more specifics here. Hope it helps and good luck!
     
  13. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    Old picture, not sure if it is still relevant at this time...

    [​IMG]
     

Share This Page