Hit the DAMNED water jacket

Discussion in 'General Maverick/Comet' started by scooper77515, Dec 6, 2007.

  1. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    :mad:

    I guess there isn't as much material on these heads as there are on other SBF heads. I figured I had MUCH more...

    Anyway, will simplify the job for the other 7 cylinders. All I can do now is smooth edges and polish some walls. Not going to have to spend so much time removing a bunch of material.

    Welded it up and cleaned it up, and looks almost good as new...
     
  2. RabidCustoms

    RabidCustoms sic minds demand sic toys

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    1,394
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    117
    well,... the good news is, you know just how far you can go.:D

    sorry:rolleyes:
     
  3. 71gold

    71gold Frank Cooper Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Apr 9, 2002
    Messages:
    26,589
    Likes Received:
    2,935
    Trophy Points:
    978
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    MACON,GA.
    Vehicle:
    '73 Grabber
    ...I knew you were going to do it...:outtahere:
     
  4. mean_maverick

    mean_maverick Senior Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2005
    Messages:
    7,312
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    153
    Location:
    Irvine, Kentucky
    Vehicle:
    '73 4dr
    what type of heads were you porting?
     
  5. bowstick

    bowstick Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2007
    Messages:
    341
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    baton rouge
    Vehicle:
    1972 maverick 302
    i think they are gt40p's
     
  6. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    GT40. I am swapping the Ps out for non Ps.

    I did fine on the Ps, and ran them for years, but I just cleaned up and widened a little. Then I started reading up and they said there are no thin spots on SBF heads so I hit these a little harder. What should have been an hour on one hole ended up being almost 3 (spent a lot of time welding several layers to make sure I don't have any pin holes when I am done).

    But, like said, I now know that all I need to do is clean up and smooth out, not try to reshape the entire port. Saves me LOTS of time when I do the rest of them.
     
  7. Andysutt

    Andysutt '72 Comet GT

    Joined:
    Dec 30, 2002
    Messages:
    3,086
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    112
    Location:
    Conway Arkansas
    Vehicle:
    1972 Comet GT
    sucks for you, but good at the same time.

    Lesson learned :)
     
  8. CometGT1974

    CometGT1974 Gearhead

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2002
    Messages:
    1,583
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    117
    Location:
    Western NC
    Vehicle:
    74 Comet GT
    Welding cast iron?? I'm assuming they are aluminum?
     
  9. Rick Book

    Rick Book Member

    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2002
    Messages:
    5,744
    Likes Received:
    13
    Trophy Points:
    197
    Location:
    Thailand
    Vehicle:
    Missing my old '70 Maverick
    me too....welded????? I had a set of heads (Victor Jr's) that were "overported" and the guy drilled a hole from the top side and pressed in a pieced of copper tubing to "repair" the foo-foo. I couldn't find anything on google, but you don't need to worry about it now anywho. Grats on the easy fix! PICTURES! (of the foo foo)
     
  10. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    I have welded cast iron for years. Gotta clean it up really good and get a good surface for the weld to hold on to. And let the weld really pool up well so it will bond.

    I used to work at a machine shop that repaired huge vacuum pumps and compressors that were made of cast iron. when they came in, almost all of them needed welding for some thing or another. Some we even machined out, and welded stainless sleeves and rings in (for paper plants and oil refineries mostly, due to the acids that formed in their processes).

    So, yeah, cast welds fine.

    This hole was about 1/8" thick and 3/4" long. It got thin evenly for a large surface, then one more swipe took out a gash. I just roughed it, cleaned it, and put several coats of weld to build it back up. Then ground down to make sure it was going to hold well, then went around the first weld and did about 3 layers each concentric to the previous. Final weld was maybe 1/2" by 1" then ground back down to a safe thickness.

    Like I said, added a couple extra hours to the job.

    Pics show the welded area, and a couple clean shots of the finished port and bowl. Will polish a little more just to make is shine. Need finer dremel paper drums.

    Upon looking at the pics, they don't do the work justice. Bad lighting, awful flash, etc...
     
    Last edited: May 12, 2008
  11. streetrod77

    streetrod77 Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004
    Messages:
    1,266
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    100
    Location:
    Memphis,Tenn
    Vehicle:
    77 comet
    Sorry also, I stuck with the pros. I heard that its easy go grind off to much.
     
  12. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    It wasn't "easy". I ground on it for quite a while before I hit it. But I PROMISE you I won't hit another one:biglaugh:

    In the pic with the weld in it, you cannot tell by the picture but I have re-welded the entire floor of that port and then reported it to a safe level. THAT is what took so much time.

    My dad showed up while I was reworking it and he immediately asked "Uh...what is the welder doing out..." with THAT tone of voice, if you know what I mean.

    He has worked in machine shops all his life, and several years diesel mechanic, and he said it looked REALLY GOOD considering the tools I am using...He still works on those vacuum pumps and compressors that I used to work on in college.
     
  13. bmcdaniel

    bmcdaniel Senile Member Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jul 2, 2002
    Messages:
    6,827
    Likes Received:
    682
    Trophy Points:
    318
    Location:
    York. PA
    Vehicle:
    '70 Maverick Grabber
    You might wanna have the head's water jacket pressure tested before installing on the engine. A lot easier than finding/fixing the problem after the motor is assembled. A head gasket alone cost more than the test.
     
  14. scooper77515

    scooper77515 No current projects.

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2004
    Messages:
    14,672
    Likes Received:
    73
    Trophy Points:
    233
    Location:
    Issaquah/Grand Coulee, WA
    Vehicle:
    Fresh out of Mavericks
    Good idea...gotta find someone who can do that around here.
     
  15. CometGT1974

    CometGT1974 Gearhead

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2002
    Messages:
    1,583
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    117
    Location:
    Western NC
    Vehicle:
    74 Comet GT
    I knew you can weld cast iron, i've just always been told that it's best to TIG it. I didn't know there was a reliable process for welding cast iron with a MIG.
     

Share This Page