Need help with 302 pulleys

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  1. 0861

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    As you can see from the picture I have a belt going from the crank to the altenator and one going from the waterpump to the altenator. The problem I have is the is one point of adjustment for two belts. I have tried to get the belts to match, but one is always a little bigger and slips. I figure there is a kit out there that can make this a one belt system, or put a belt tensioner on one of the belts. I would rather get the one belt system if anyone knows about one that works. I need all the help I can get, Thanks.
     

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    You need to find a water pump pulley with two pulleys built in. Then you can use one belt that goes to all three.
     
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    Or a crank pulley that lines up with your water pump.
     
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    PaulS Member extrordiare

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    That might be a bit more difficult - but doable:thumbs2:
     
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    Just loose the crank to alternator belt. You don't need it at all. The alternator should have a single sheeve pulley. Some one's done a crappy job there in mixing pulley sets.
     
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    Mavman72 Gone backwards but lookin' forward

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    Ditto what badad said loose the extra belt and just get one for a 72 302 mav W/O power steering or ac and you should be golden till you decide to change it all out.
    Unless of course that WP pulley doesnt line up with the crank pulley... Otherwise go to march for a pulley set.
     
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    I want to order the billet type serpentine kit online, but I am concerned that it won't fit. Is there any hints out there to ensure I get the correct kit? Do I need to get the number off the engine for the application? Are all 302's basic blocks alike? Just looking for some expertice advice from experience.
     
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    In the picture it looks as if the crankshaft/balancer pulley does not line up with the waterpump pulley. I put a 302 into a 1971 with manual steering in september and I ran into the same problem when I removed the power steering pump. I used a singlegroove waterpump pulley from a 200-6. I think that I might have had to shim it slightly (washers), but it lined up with the crank pulley. Then I cut a belt and set it at ride height in the pulley grooves and took that measurement to the parts store to get the single belt setup.
     
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    im running a small belt on the water pump to the crank just get the exact size and you dont need a tensioner then just put another belt from the alternator to the crank you can get another crank pulley from any 70's 302 with two grooves it would cost way less than buying all new pulleys
     
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    Found a temp fix

    Here is the quick fix I found. I went to the junk yard and took a double pulley off the waterpump of a 250-6 cylinder. I believe the Maverick was a 74. The shaft on the 250 is 3/4, where my shaft on the 302 waterpump is 5/8, so I had to get a brass sleeve from lowes that fits over the 5/8 shaft and lets the 3/4 pulley slide on it. The I shimmed it out 1/4 inch. I tried the pulley from a 72 200-6 cylinder, but it set to far back and to shim it out would have been impossible. This is not the perfect answer, but works until I get the money to get the pulley system I want. Hopefully this helps and if anyone has an easier way, let me know. This solution costs me 17 dollars. 10 dollars for the pulley and 7 for the new belt. :dance:
     
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    There's probably a stock dual sheeve pulley that will work for you. Ford made upteen dozen different dual sheeve pulleys for various applications. What's the measurement you need from front to back with the pulley laid flat on a surface?
     
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    I went to the website and looked at your setup. It looks like you have what I am trying to get to, but I can't get a really good look into the front of the engine compartment. Your water pump also looks different.
     
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    The waterpump on mine is for a late 88-up Crown Vic. It's a std rotation aluminum pump. The crank pulley is a 70's 351W piece with the outer two sheeves milled off. The w/p pulley is the stock pulley for a 70's 302 from a Maverick. The alternator bracket is something I fabbed from 3/8" thick aluminum.
     
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    That's a rather unique linkage arrangement on that tunnel ram....never seen anybody use a chain to connect two carbs before.....
     

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