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  1. CaptainComet

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    For fire ants ... get some Quaker Quick Grits ... (do NOT cook them :D) ... sprinkle them on the fire ant beds dry.

    The fire ants grab them as food and bring them back to the nest. They all pig out on grits and having no water to wash them down, the grits kill them. I believe that it is because once the dry grits hit any liquids internally, they start to swell up... pretty much blow them up from the inside out. :clap:

    If it rains on the dry grits, then you are just feeding them.

    Good luck with the timing chain ... when you said it went "Bang" and stopped running that was my first vote.
     
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    5 qts. of used oil from your next oil change will remove the fireants, oil came from the ground so your just recycling :huh:, don't remember who you said did the work(can't look back while posting) but if u paid for it maybe they will help u, it does sound like timing chain or gear issue
     
  3. Retta Ranch

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    mr chilton and I did it, :D although my hubby happened to be through town, and checked it. I'll figure out what happened, and fix it. If it was something I did, then I won't do that again! So far, this whole Mav project has been mostly fun. I enjoy the puzzles, and figuring these things out. I realize it's 37 years old, and things are going to happen. Ideally, before my teenage daughter started driving it, I would have had the motor totally rebuilt, and everything else done. Unfortunately, we couldn't afford that route, so she's driving it as I work on it. She's due back from Amman, Jordan from a mission trip on Wednesday, so I guess I better get busy.
    Rhonda
     
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    Good luck. Hope it's a relatively easy fix.:)
     
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    I am not familiar with 6 cylinders but if it's much like the v8's here is what might of happened. If there is a dowel locking the gear to the cam the dowel might have been left out, broken or too short to hold the cam gear.
    You will have to figure that out then re-time the cam with the crank inorder to get it running again. I would also check the oil pump drive very close as well
    When I lived in Texas a couple of years the old timers would take a shovel full of fire ants from each hill and mix them up. He said they would go to fighting each other and kill each hill out.
    clint
     
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    Half a cup of gas will take out the whole mound. The hole's not very deep and the vapors will get'em all.

    It works better if you can resist the temptation to light it.

    But it ain't as fun.
     
  7. Retta Ranch

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    ok, so now everything is undone to get timing cover off. A few weeks ago when the gears/chain were replaced, it came off rather easily. It didn't just fall off, or anything, but it did come free.
    This time, it won't budge. "Mr. Chilton" suggests to "gently pry the cover away from the block". He seems to be a master of understatement. Things like "remove radiator, fan and pulley, and engine drive belts." hmmph! Any ideas? Oh, and I did double/triple check that I removed all bolts, and the condenser is moved forward.
    Rhonda
     
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    i use a...Dead Blow Hammer...:smash:

    ...:yup:...
     
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    It is likely that brand-new gasket and the gasket goop are holding it on pretty good.

    How about using a small chunk of wood and a hammer? The wood should keep you from denting it too bad.
     
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    Double check that you have gotten all the bolts out. Use a flashlight and a mirror to see all around and in the nooks and crannys. Once you have done that, get a 2 or 3 inch putty knife and try prying it in between the mating surfaces between the cover and the block and use the knife to cut the gasket and sealer to get the cover off. Sometimes even a flat blade screwdriver will suffice to get that stuff started on separating. What I have found is that if you dont use something to get the gasket sealant cut on a large surface like that is that you risk springing/tweaking the metal that you are trying to get off from the block and sometimes that will make it tough to get it sealed again.
     
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    Don't forget the 2 corner bolts holding the oil pan onto the timing cover! Easy to miss. Should be a 1/2" and a 7/16 on each corner.
    I think there is also a couple of 3/8" head bolts down low that are real easy to miss. That and like said just pry out easily as depending on how much gasket maker was used it might be stuck pretty well.
    clint
     
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    another sad day :-( Here's what I found: broken camshaft, thrust plate, one gear has a tooth missing, chain broken, and timing chain cover broke. The cam broke off in front of the gear for the oil pump. The front bearing is toast. So, I'm off to price parts. My husband said we could go one step above stock on the cam kit. Oh, found out the motor mounts are all but gone, so I guess I'll add them to my list. That's the only thing on the list I've actually done before. Encouragement always appreciated!!
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    1973Maverick357 Cooler then a Camaro

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    Time for a 302 ;)!!
     
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    the part you need is a...motor...:yup:

    there is more than...replacing a cam there...

    ...:cry:...
     
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    ok. does anyone local have a 200? Have a feeling it might be easier!! I'll post to the classifieds here, too.
    Rhonda
     

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