i was thinking the maverick could be the next got to have car.

I can understand where you guys are coming from but, i know when it cost 30k for an old maverick im buying a new mustang. I'v saw so many "perfect" cars sell for big money only to not be so good a shape when you get it home. Not trying to run down any shops or restorers but i can get a warranty on a 30k car. If i buy a 30 year old car for 30k its mine good or bad. In my mind only collectors will have old cars when they get that way. Not enthusiasts.

 

Only reason I care about what mine is worth is for insurance purposes. Since I never intend to sell it, what difference does it make??

 

I agree, when it comes to my maverick it's not about what she's worth... could be worthless in reality, that dens't make me love it any less... The body lines, the v8 packed into a small car, the feel, the stance, and how it handles with inferior suspension on the road (compared to an IDS Rear/newer style suspension) it's about what i enjoy, and what i like. Most maverick owners feel this way. Some mustang guys you meet don't know jack about trying to salvage and re-work existing materials to repair, they simply replace... while that isn't feesable with the maverick market most of the time. This develops skills and knowledge that i believe better strengthens the bond between the owner and the car. I've had several try to stop and talk me into selling my maverick, and she's not pretty in the slightest yet... but there isn't ANYTHING that will ever get me to let go of mine. Even if she gets totalled out... i'll not stop trying to piece her back together because it's what i wanted. (or... if i HAD to... move my good parts to another and start again with another maverick build)

 

Well if anything, we could all feel bad for the guys that collect Pacers.....

 

im glad to see all of the feedback, and i feel everyone seems to have a good response to what they feel and believe in. i do have to say that i like the fact that there are people who drive these cars as everday drivers, i feel this is how it should be and i am glad to see it is so. in my original add i dont think i was trying to say anything specific, just random thoughts. i dont want people to think that i want these cars to just become collectibles, or that i want them to be all about money, because that is wrong. what i was trying to say is that i feel as do alot of others from the responses that i was reading, is that these cars have a place for everyone. daily drivers, race cars, show cars, collectibles. its just sometimes when i read repplies or comments on cars and parts that people are selling, it seems alot of people are very judgemental on what that seller is selling, or they make comments about how out of line the seller is on price. to me, just because its a maverick, doesnt mean everything about the cars and parts has to be cheap. as alot of you have responded, there are cheap cars and parts, and higher end cars and parts. it seems that those who build higher end cars or do higher end parts are judged diffrently then those with the cheaper stuff. this is normal in any circle. what originaly made me post the thread was alot of adds and comments that i have seen lately. then finaly the other day the guy who owns the red 70 maverick 460 car listed his car for sale and some of the feedback was that the car was maybee a little overpriced at 4000.00 the add stated the car was a one owner solid rust free car with a fresh base clear paint job, fresh 460 with a fresh c6 trans, fresh 9 inch rear end and a mustang 2 front suspention. i thought to myself hell, i dont care if its a pinto, or a gremlin, or a hornet, fresh paint even if the paint job is low qaulity, a fresh drivetrain on a one owner car from arizona at 4000.00 i felt that was a very very fair price, because i could not build anything close to that car for that kind of money. i was just starting to get the feeling that alot of people almost excpect these cars to have great paint, fresh drivetrains and new tires and rims with real nice interiors for 2500.00...... maverick or not, theres no problem building anything cheaply, or on a budgett, but everyone has to be more reasonable about what things cost today. if we are going to commend that maverick owner who paid 1500.00 for his maverick and has been driving it everday for the last 10 years, then we should also commend the guy who took the plain jane 6 banger and turnd it into a updated pro touring beast. as some of you have stated, these cars are for everyone, we should respect those who can build these cars on a budgett, but we should also understand that it costs alot more to build a car at a higher level. neither of these maverick ownners/builders should be knocked for how they want or can afford to build his or her car. this was a good thread to get alot of ideas and prospectives from everyone glad everyone has had a opinion. god bless

 

I think the one thing that has kept the Maverick and Comet prices down within reason is the fact that they never built a performance version of it. If they would have built a 4V 4Speed version with a posi rearend and dual exhaust then I think it would make all of them worth more money. There is just nothing out there in our world to make them a performance car. That's kind of the cool thing about owning/building one. You can use parts that are out there to build whatever you want and chances are really good you will have the only one like it. It's like someone said somewhere in this post. I have been in the race/restoration business for a long time and I remember when a 4 speed Falcon wouldn't bring any money. The Maverick and Comet will have there day but they will never be worth what a big block Camaro or Mustang brings.Just enjoy them for what they are and be dam glad a lot of people haven't figured out how cool of a car they are, how easy they are to work on, and how many thumbs up you get when you drive one...YET. Just my two cents worth....

 

Wow, being an experienced car guy you should know better, that to take someones word from an Ebay auction to heart.
Sure that car might have a newer paint job, but it's far from fresh. As for the fresh motor and transmission, I'd wouldn't bet money on that either. If they had some proof the car was one owner, that would be nice to see, if you make the claim, you should back it up...also it's missing most of it's interior....it's a pretty poor auction.
My comments on that we're about someone bidding 4 grand on the car, when there are cars that are clearly nicer, never get to half that.
Sure it's costs money to build a car, just don't waste it buying one.

 

I have to chime in on the daily driver thing. I do believe this is one of the reasons these cars are still affordable. Craig is right on that point. It boggles my mind that these 40 year old cars are still used daily. You have to realize these cars literally rotted off our roads in the 80's and even earlier. They were a real cheap car that got used like a BIC lighter then tossed into the garbage. Not many were saved up here for future consideration. They just werent that type of car. Very few had the foresight to save one thinking they may be worth something down the road. Hell I even parted mine out in the early 90's. Big mistake but its all good now!!
I just dont see how a car can reach a collector type status and value when they are still used as beaters. I mean I'm sure the odd Chevelle or beater Camaro still exists as daily transport but very,very few.
I really notice it when I see the California ads for Mavericks that look stock sitting in a driveway for sale. They are obviously driven cars that seem like they are stuck in some weird cheap time warp. Those 1-3000 dollar cars are still readily available. My buddies up here are blown away when I show them the ads. Cars like that just dont exist up here.
You southern guys that think your Mavs turn heads, you should see people up here react to these cars. Its almost indescribable. Attract attention is an understatement. At the cruise nights people constantly walk right past beautiful Stangs,Camaros etc. and head straight for my little Maverick. Its cool but it also makes me realize how under valued they are. The cars they pass by are worth easy 5 times my Mav and yet its the Mav that gets the peoples attention. Frustrating but also a good thing. I cant realistically build or by a 30000 dollar car right now. Bang for the buck the little MAv rules. Even if I was in a position to buy a big dollar car I still wouldnt give up my Mav. Loved em since I was 15 when I got my first one of many.
So I guess I'd like the value to increase now that I have mine built but I wouldnt have been able to buy it in the first place if it wasnt affordable/cheap. How else could I have a nice head turning car and have this much fun for under 10 grand invested?
One day I will have my CJ Torino!!!
Think I can find one mint under 10 grand.

 

But you are making assumptions that all the sellers says in his auction is not true when you have no first hand knowledge and there is no way like confused72 said you can begin to duplicate it for that money alone much less his time for labor, so here we have the issue someone saying man he's crazy high for his car I don't think it's worth that isn't that the point confused72 just made people saying things are a way to high not taking into consideration it's almost 2011 and cost to build and buy cars is not what it was even 2 years ago or even next year !!!!!!

 

that was my point exactly brian. the guy with the 1970 460 maverick for sale never claimed his car was a high dollar super nice car. his add just said new base coat clear paint, fresh drivetrain, in matter of fact he went as far to say the motor was fresh but had no road miles, so that should mean that it is not even broken in. now i understand what dave is saying about how do we know that the motor and trans and all that is fresh? well, how do we know its not? did anyone ask him if he had reciepts for any of the work? his add didnt say he did, but it didnt say he did not. my point was, that if it has a fresh paint job, if it has a freshly rebuilt motor and trans, if it has a freshly built 9 inch rearend, even with out a interior it is still very fairly priced at 4000.00... another member on the site here posted a 1972 maverick for sale last week out of lake villa il. his name is eric, i have bought parts from him very nice guy. his add said fresh paint job on rust free car with excellent body. no front glass, no motor or trans, very nice car as far as i could tell and well worth the money to me. but not really half of the car that the guy with the 1970 460 motor has. eric from the site was asking 2500.00 for his car with no motor or trans. when i was reading the responses to his add, several people said it was a hell of a deal. the response was that erics car was a great buy at 2500.00 for the fact it had fresh paint and super clean body. so why is that a great buy at 2500.00 and the running driving 1970 with the 460 motor fresh paint and all of its glass is not a great buy at 4000.00 what i felt people were looking at, was that the car was a great buy because it was 2500.00.... yes 2500.00 is less then 4000.00 but the car at 4000.00 gave people a fresh drivetrain, and a nice one at that. hell the add says car also has a new auluminum radiator and other goodies. is there something about the person or the car itself that i dont know about and others do. i was just confused how some cars and parts get deemed great buys and fair prices, and others get deemed not that great of a buy or not that fairly priced??????

 

i myself had rather have a stock 6 cyl car, clean and no rust for $2500 than a converted V8 with fresh paint for the same money. fresh paint we know is not cheap if done correctly. i had rather see what is there to start with. on the other hand...an all orginal car does nothing for me either as far as being worth a lot of money. that means i have everything to replace...brakes, tires, seals, seats and carpet.

i have a friend that has a '67 camaro...he has replaced w/new...both quarters, both door skins, roof, tailpanel, radiator support, full floorpan, trunk pan, firewall, trunk lid, panel below back window and metal dash...all the frontend compontents are new or restored to orginal factory color. he has a complete new interior ready to go in. he is block sanding now getting ready for paint (orginal color of course)....all of this because it has...matching #s...

...this car was so far gone that the Guy before him was going to the crusher with it...the Guy gave it to him because he was going to..."save"...it...
i have seen e-bay Mavericks listed...W/matching #s...

my car was on a rollback on it's way to the crusher...$50 and he brought it to my house...all orginal, #s matching car...

...$XX,000...invested (spent) and still no paint...

 

If you read my posts, you won't see one that says I think the price is too high, I was pointing out someone bid 4 grand on it, when nicer cars don't even get close to that....
I know what it costs to build cars, your not the only one that does restorations on here. I have good friends that own restoration businesses, and have helped on many magazine feature cars over the years.
If any of you would pay over 4000 for that car, your nut's!

 

I don't question the "value" of the $4000 Maverick. What I look at in that auction is:

1. Crappy pictures. Get the thing outisde and get some NICE pictures of it.

2. Radiator hanging down in front. Kind of speaks to the quality of the build.

3. New Paint. Anybody can state new paint. Lets face it...from 20 feet away, one really can't rell the difference between a $400 paint job and a $4000 one. Case in point, I paid a guy $450 to primer and paint THIS car with a base coat/clear coat. I sanded it...he masked it off. He had to buy materials. I put the flames on.

 

Buying parts to restore 641/2 to '73 Mustangs were not always easy to get. I restored my '69 Mach 1 in '94 and I still had to shop swap meets for many items. Interior and exterior trim part were not produced yet. At least not many. Today almost everything is available BUT quality parts especially reproduction sheet metal is a concern. Stay with Ford part if possible. The cost of rebuilding a Mustang is high that plus the rearity of certain models sets the price. I think more parts will be produced as Maverick restorations increase. Also there is six inches of snow and ice outside, 13 degrees and windy! So, my Maverick is not a 4X4 or all wheel drive so I am not driving it. I won't even open the garage door!!! Merry Chirstmas and Happy 2011 to all.

 

Some people just cant see the Forrest for the trees and they just don't get it How Many on here do Restorations for a living and have done so for over twenty years with dozens of Best Of Show winners and they do it with a Business model that has been extremely successful and lucrative. Great parents of the past generations taught there children when you can't say something nice then say nothing at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!