250 died today

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  1. Ken Thompson

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    I was going to do some timing work on the Mav today. I started it and let it idle to warm up. I rev'd it a little to have the engine start to stumble and hear a metallic sound. I shut it off then pulled the valve cover, restarted the engine and watched the rocker arms move. I notice the number 6 exhaust arm stop moving. Then the engine fluttered again and died. Either the lifter is dead or the lobe has worn flat. Just damn!
    Time to start rebuilding a new short block.
    Ken
     
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    Or maybe the valve is siezed in the guide?
     
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    Interesting Joe, I hadn't thought of that.
    I am now putting together a list of what I need to build another 250. My goal is to build a 250hp 257 I-6. I hope to have it completed by Christmas.
    Ken
     
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    bent push rod? valve caught in the guide? Lifter malfunction?

    I would unbolt the head and investigate a little. If it's a problem like mentioned above it shouldn't cost an arm or a leg.
     
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    sportyfamilycar, I do believe it's a bad lifter. The best way to get the dead lifter out is to pull the cam out and push them from the top. If I am going to pull the cam to swap lifters, I might as well rebuild the 40 year old engine to get it to top performance.This is just an early sign of future failure!
    Thanks,
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    Coolvettes, I'll pretend you never wrote that!:mad:
    I have a killer V-8 Ford all ready built and ready to go (396 FULLUP sbf in my basement). But I wanted a challenge and now I have one.:dancing:
    I am trying to build a killer 250,and have most of the parts to complete it.
    My thinking is this, what hasn't been done to a V-8? Turbo, supercharged and nitrous. A log head six is the challenge to me. AK Miller built a couple of killer 6's and I'm thinking I can too.
    I thought of using LP gas until I found out last week it was $4.30 a gallon. Killed that thought. I am building a long rod 250 with 10.2:1 compression, 3 2bbls, killer cam and the rest.
    This should be fun.
    Ken
     
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    A lifter remover tool is the easiest and best way IMO. :cool: .

    If you do rebuild; if you haven't already pick up the falcon six performance handbook I would recommend you grab it, has good tips you can pass on to your machinist that can make a more efficient motor from that stubborn log head these sixes have

    :2cents:

    good luck :tiphat:
     
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    Thanks sportyfamilycar, Taking a lifter from the top, of a 40 year old engine, has never for me worked. I do have a new Falcon Six Cylinder book. I do plan to do all the head mods plus add 3 progressive 2bbl carburetors. The cam will be a custom Schneider cam. The short block will have 300 rods and Keith Black 305 stroker pistons, KB153-STD. This is worth 10.2:1 compression. :thumbs2:If I can't get the results with this combo, I'll swap the head for a CL Aluminum Head and 4bbl manifold. As long as I own this Maverick, it will have a 250 in it. So There!!!!:)
    Thanks,
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    Coolvettes, Please, I'm just having fun. The 396 is for my 95 Lightning.
    Ken
     
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    3 - 2 barrels :wow:

    haha. Sounds like a good plan though for the motor, just stuffing it under the stock hood of a Maverick is the trick.
    Keep the compression like you plan below 11, as they do tend to start knocking 10.5:1 and up on pump gas.
     

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