Flywheel Grinding

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    Hey Guys, I have some grinding of the flywheel going on. One thing I had to do was add a .281" shim between the bell housing and the transmission to keep the torque converter from binding up. I am wondering if that is attributing to my problem. The grinding is on the front side of the teeth, which says that I should be pushing away from the starter. I know I have to pull the trans back down, but what about adding a shim to the starter to push it away from the flywheel.:huh:
     
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    has the transmission been removed/replaced?
     
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    I have a spacer plate between the motor and the bellhousing, I used the term shim but actual I placed a .281" spacer between the back of the bell housing and the transmission using the bell housing bolt holes. I am using my C4 transmission but I installed a a TCI Street Fighter Torque Converter which needed the .281" spacer.
     
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    did the spacer come with the TC?
    who said it needed the spacer?
     
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    Sounds like you didn't have the converter set all the way in if you had to use a 9/32" plate for a spacer...thats more than a 1/4"...less than 5/16".
     
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    Help section advance auto should have starter shims like you need. When you spaced bell away from engine, you pulled start into flywheel too close. You may need several shims, if I remember correctly the shims are. 090 thick. Longer bolts may be needed if a bit short now. Good LUCK
     
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    Thank you DK, I knew someone would understand what I am saying. I am a machinist by trade and will probably make the shim. I took my measurement from the front of the bell housing to the torque converter pilot and determined what was necessary to keep the motor from binding when the transmission was pulled to it. I placed the spacer behind the bell housing to move it forward. But as you said I now have to push the starter away from the flywheel.

    Thanks, TonyJ
     
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    You do not have the converter in right, it is not seated in trans pump.
    I have the TCI converter in my comet it fits like stock. You need to fix
    or you will break the pump in the trans.
     
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    Fordman, I distinctively felt the converter fall into place, I intentionally took the torque converter in and out to be sure I had it in correct. I am confident of my converters position.
     
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    It goes in three times, If it is right you do not need a shim. I have done
    this 100s of times, I drag raced for 25 years. If you run it like you now
    you will kill the trans!
     
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    don't you think it's strange that you are the only one having to...shim a bellhousing...:huh:

    again...where did or can you get these shims?

    your converter has the wrong snout for your app.
     
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    I think all he needs to do converter in right,sometimes they
    are hard to get all the way. You have turn and push sometimes
    I have a TCI converter in my Comet that fits fine.
     
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    there are two diff. depth snouts in all brand converters...157/164 tooth.
    i ran into the same thing with one...:yup:
    i call the converter co. and they got me straight.
    if the converter seats 3/8" inside the bellhousing...the snout is too long.
     
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    I believe that 71Gold's point probably put's things in a better perspective. The motor was brought with a 164 tooth flywheel and the TCI torque converter. I bought a 157 tooth bell housing. Where I live they won't sell you a bell housing without you buying the whole transmission, I was not buying a second transmission. When I bought the the engine I was not aware of the differences until I pulled the trans to the engine with the 164 tooth flywheel and noticed it was larger than the bell housing. I never thought twice about it, I took it for granted that they were the same size. Obviously, I did not know some of the nuances of car building but was determined to make it work. Some have asked where did the .281" spacer come from, again I fabricated it.

    Thanks 71Gold, I think you have given me a clearer understanding why things went the way they did and brought some resolution to this issue.

    TonyJ
     
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    not a problem...:Handshake
    when I have to make something fit that everyone else just bolts in....i need to know...why...:yup:


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