another disc brake question

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  1. silver70

    silver70 Eric

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    Hey, guys! Got a question... I've seen many pictures of a disc brake setup (front) on a maverick, but, I need more details. I got the spindles from a wrecking yard that deals specifically in classics. However, they insisted that they pull it b/c of recent "issues" with people destroying the cars to get to their own parts. The guys kept the mounting hardware and calipers. All I have are the spindles and dust shields. How, exactly do the calipers mount to spindles? What hardware do I need (bolt sizes, etc.)? Any links or pictures of an exploded view of the caliper assembly would help greatly. Any answers would also help greatly:D.

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    P.S.- Mavericks are hard to find out here, so just finding one to look at is kinda out of the question.
     
  2. courier11sec

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    Go back to the wrecking yard and tell them you need the calipers and bolts. they might charge you a few bucks more, but even if you go to the parts store for new calipers they will probably want cores. If after you have the calipers and bolts you can't figure out how they go back together, you need someone to help you do this job. No insult intended, just thinking of your safety.
     
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    yeah so long as he wants less than 5 bucks apiece . last 2 times i bought calipers (at advance auto parts) there was no core charge. but you DO need the little leaf springs and mounting stuff.
     
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    something to keep in mind

    As I recall, there was a change in brakes in 73 or 74. I discovered this issue when I switched to disc brakes. The difference is in the outer tie rod and the "hole" in the spindle. Newer systems have a slightly larger (diameter) tie rod "ball and joint" and a slightly larger diameter "hole" in the spindle where the tie rod attaches. Just thought I would mention that. You folks with parts catalogs see if there isn't a different tie rod number for 70-73 vs 74-77. Maybe it was disc vs drum? Can't remember. Good luck.
     
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    In my experience, the difference was not the diameter of the hole, but rather the thickness of the spindle where it bolts to the outter tie-rod end. The diameter of the hole was no different, but the original '73 tie-rod end shaft was a little too long. It still works, but the cotter pin will not install tightly against the castle nut, as there is some space between the eyelet and the top of the nut after it is tightened all the way down.

    I discovered it this past summer when the swap was done on my friend's '73 (using '75 spindles). What's strange is that I don't remember it being an issue on my '73 when the swap was done back in '90. There are lots of strange little variables concerning these cars...
     
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    FoMoDave Maverick Owner

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    Do your spindles have brackets that are bolted to them?These are the caliper mounts,if not there go back and get them and bolts(you must have).It is best to buy complete assbl. from yard then just replace caliper/harware.Do you have a library or book store,look for repair book on most any early 70s fords to get info/pict..Caliper slides on bracket and is held on by retaining bolt.Hope this helps some.
     
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    silver70 Eric

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    Thing is, I got these spindles about a year ago and I just recently got around to restoring/assembling them. The yard went south and shut down about 3 months ago:slap: (another case of over-pricing merchandise). I've heard a lot about the "minor variances" from friends and contacts. However, nobody knows for sure b/c they don't own a Maverick themselves. The part number starts w/ D4, so I know they're from a '74. I know the basic assembly of discs, but, I didn't know if there was a special mounting bracket or piece of hardware specific to the Maverick. For me, it's off to Auto Zone or NAPA, I guess, to get the parts. My biggest concern is the fact that I need the mounting bolts and don't know the size/length.
     
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    FoMoDave Maverick Owner

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    Which "mounting bolts" are refering to? The bolts that hold caliper bracket to spindle? Do not know the size but do not buy any cheap bolts. Grade 8 or better. What car did they come off of, Mav. or Granada? Search forum there may be a pic.
     
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    silver70 Eric

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    Pretty much all the bolts necessary to attach the calipers to the spindles. All I have are the spindles w/ the dust shields attached. I have absolutely nothing else. There is a picture that is most commonly used in describing the entire disc brake assembly. It's out of an old repair manual. However, the picture is only of an assembled rotor/caliper at 3/4 view and does not show an exploded picture, which is what I really need.
     
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    TL, you could very well be correct. It has been several years since I performed the conversion. I thought I remembered the tie rod "sitting deeper" in the spindle but maybe it was length. At any rate, I think I cured the problem by purchasing the newer outer tie rods which thread into the adjusting sleeve with no problem.
     
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    First be sure you have the right spindles!! The caliper does not bolt on it slides onto caliper bracket.As I said before you must have the bracket that bolts to spindle!!! If you do not have this you must source them from doner car.Get brackets and bolts from doner car,buy brake hardware from parts store. Again once you have caliper brackets bolted to spindle you will see how caliper goes on. You really need to know what spindles are from to get outer tie rods.What is the whole part # on spindles? Sounds like you may have spindles off a 73 mustang,You still need that bracket tho,but calipers bolt onto bracket.
     
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    silver70 Eric

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    Ooohhh...... Now the puzzle comes together! I'll have to find another parts car to get the brackets from. I know the spindles came off a '74 Maverick b/c I got a chance to walk through the old salvage yard and show the guy which ones I needed. At the time, the spindles were attached to a '74 Maverick. However, they pulled them without my presence (see above posts). I just thought I could go to NAPA, or something, and get everything I needed to complete the assembly. Now, I just find that they only carry the rotors and calipers. No mounting hardware/brackets. Damn. Oh well, I guess it's time to do more junkyard hopping. Thanks for everyone's help on this issue (y). I'll stop posting so as to keep this from popping up on everyone's e-mail continually.

    Thanks again all!
    Eric (silver70)
     
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    Will the brakes off of a 71 mustang work on a 72 maverick?
     
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    I recently did a disk brake conversion on my sons maverick. All I got was the spindles also. All my hardwar for the caliper came with the new calipers. Good luck.
     
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    why can't you get the ones where you got the spindles...:bouncy:
    I pull the complete setup...that way you have everything...:thumbs2:
     

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