Noob question Mavrick vs Falcon

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  1. MNComet64

    MNComet64 New Member

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    I have a 64 Comet Caliente. From what I have seen so far, the Falcon was the Ford sister of the Comet? Did the Falcon turn into the Mavrick or what?
     
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    Here's some comet history for ya.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_Comet

    The falcon technically turned into the fairlane, but the mustang took many of the falcon parts. It's all very confusing.

    As cars continued to grow, the names followed new designs, but he old designs turned into new names.

    For instance, the original design that started out as the falcon, turned into the mustang, then turned into the maverick before it finally died in '77.

    The mustang first used falcon parts, then grew into the '70 model which used torino parts, then shrunk to use pinto parts, then grew again to use fairlane parts. In '99 the mustang finally became more of it's own car. In '05 the first "clean sheet" mustang was made.
     
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    I agree, partially. While the Mustang, Falcon and Maverick shared basic designs, they also had model specific parts. Early Mustangs and early Mavericks both used Falcon suspension parts before being redisgned for their own pieces. Some pieces will interchange between models, some won't. And the basic design lived on untill 1980 on the Granada. After the Mustang II which shared the Pinto design, came the Fox body, all 1979 and later Mustangs, T birds, and Fairmonts were based on this style untill about 1993,when an improved Fox design was used. The 2005 Mustang was based on the Lincoln LSC platform, IIRC. I think a better timeline would be:

    Falcon/ Falcon-Maverick-Granada
    *****\ Mustang-/Mustang II/Fox Mustang-Fox -redesign Mustang-Lincoln platform |
    **********************\Fairmont-T Bird
    Fairlane-Torino-Elite

    I may be fuzzy on a few details, so correct me if I'm wrong
     
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    MNComet64 New Member

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    But the Comet is most closly realated to the Ford Falcon, Correct?
     
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    The '70s comet is most closely related to the maverick. Second is the early model mustang.

    The '60s comet is most closely related to the falcon.

    The rumor that the '05 was based on the lincoln came from them using the lincoln as a mule for the new 4.6. The '05 is a clean sheet design all the way through.
     
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    YOUR Comet is more related to the Falcon.
     
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    I hate to say this but from what I have heard and read the 05 up Mustang is actually based on--------GET THIS Mazda 6 platform. Ford owns a fair size share of Mazda and the M<ustang is loosely based on that car. I could be wrong but that is how I understand the info I have seen.:hmmm:
     
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    Well, I'll have to check my book when I get home.
     
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    Totally wrong. The Mazda is front drive!

    The Old Escort has Mazda heritage. New Fusion may share some Mazda mechanicals.

    64 Comet is a Falcon with different fenders and trim.

    Falcon was a stripped down Fairlane/Torino in 1970 1/2 then died.
     
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    Just because the Mazda is front drive does not mean that the mstang was not designed using the basic body structure with different subframes and reenforcing. I heard this on an automotive news show back when they were first coming out with the new stang and I have no reason not to believe what they said is true.:Handshake Also the Ford Currier (spelling?) pickup and the first Rangers were more Mazda than Ford so it certainly is not the first time Ford & Mazda have teamed up.
     
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    actually some mazda 6's are all wheel drive :p
     
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    Other then the fact that some early Rangers used Mazda transmisson (terrible transmission, BTW my Ranger has been through 4 of them), could you explain how they were more Mazda then Ford? They had Pinto engines and 7.5 or 8.8 rear ends. The 1994 - 2000's Mazda B series pickups were produced by Ford, and were just rebaged Ford Rangers, with Ford engines. It even says produced by Ford on the emission sticker under the hood.

    The new Mustang is based on the D2C platform, which is a (very) modifed version of the "DEW98" platform (Jaguar S type, Lincoln LS and 2 seater Thunderbird).
     
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    The Ford Currier and Mazda PU were both Mazda PU. Badge engineering. Mazda got a rotary option and the Courrier got the Ford 2 ltr. as was later the case as Jamie stated. Late Mazda PU was a Ford rebadged with some slight sheet metal changes. The Mazda 6 is a 4 door sedan with 4 wheel independant suspension. The Mustang has a solid rear axle, is not even close dimentionally. Not sure of the all wheel drive option Jamie. Can't find it on the Mazda site

    Mazda may have assisted with some component engineering, but the Mazda6 is not a close relitive of the Mustang. Same family (Ford), but wrong side.
     
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    Cool! A family tree that tries to get Uncle Mazda kicked out, just because of his history of alcoholism and incarceration...:p

    I doubt seriously that the 05 mustang is a clean slate. They had to start from something...so what is the basic template that they started from.

    Now that I think about it, this is sorta jacking the thread, as we jumped ahead 40 years in the family tree:hmmm:
     
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    As Jami said: The new Mustang is based on the D2C platform, which is a (very) modifed version of the "DEW98" platform (Jaguar S type, Lincoln LS and 2 seater Thunderbird).
     

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