hey guys and gals.i need help with my starter.i have the mav all wired up,and when i go to start it it sounds like the starter is crushed up against the flywheel/flex plate.when i loosen it up,the starter will spin.the starter i am using is for an auto,and i have a 3 spd.floor shift.can anyone help?i called autozone and they said there is no difference in starters,between standard and auto.does anyone have any brand name,and part#"s,and where they bought there starters?i am almost ready to drive this thing,but the starter is holding me back.any and all help/suggestions are greatly appreciated.chuck.
Chuck to my knowledge there is no difference in starters between a manual or auto tranny. It sounds like your starter gear is not meshing with the flywheel. Try moving the car with it in gear to move the flywheel a little or turn the crank pulley. Just a thought...hope it helps.
starter auto and manual starters are different. Pinion depth is the difference. Autos usually have a longer pinion for the gear.
GO to your supply store and get starter shims. Get a assortment of different thicknesses. You said when you loosen starter it works ok. Sounds like starter is to close to flywheel. By placing a shim between block and starter it moves the starter away or down from the flywheel. You will have to experiment with different thicknesses until you get it rite Give it a try. Dont be afraid to use more than one at a time but start off with a very thin shim and progressively get thicker. Make sure you tighten starter every time you put a different thickness in. Hope this works for you like it did for me once.
starter shims definately get the shims got my starter at O'reillys, and it say ss right in the instructions to use shims to adjust how the gears mesh
i was always under the impression that the starters were differnt, i know they are in my 6 cyl cars. hope you can get the shims to work, sounds like you may get to hear it run this weekend.. :bananaman
thanks,everyone for the suggestions.i tried the shim trick,nothing.when i loosen the starter,it spins...not the engine.only thing i can think of,is it's the wrong type of starter.keep the ideas and suggestions coming!chuck.
i 6, why were you changing the starter in the first place? what was it doing or not doing? ...frank...:bananaman :bananaman
starter Shims are for Chevys. This is a Ford. It either is the right one or the wrong one. You have the wrong one. Have them look up one for a auto trans and compare. If they tell you they're the same, then you need to find a "Parts" store.
frank, this is the starter that came with the engine which was an automatic setup.it's new thats all i know.rickyracer thats what i thought but figured i would try some pcs.of shim plate.i know they worked good for my old buicks,and olds,products.i've tried autozone,and even napa.got in an argument with them at napa,they say that there is no difference in starters for the 302 based maverick,whether it standard or an auto.they said there is only a difference in starters for the 200 six.250,302 were the same,regardless of tranny type.:confused: i just got off the phone with autozone,they say they are showing a difference for the mustang starter.i think i'll try one of those.will post the outcome later today,thanks again everyone...chuck.
Just a thought but did you use the flexplate that came with the engine? Possability it is a 164 tooth and your bell housing is for a 157. would cause the bendix gear to slam against the ring gear in the wrong place. Not sure if the small bell will fit over the large flex anyway. Have done it the opposite and the starter just spins in mid air. Ricky may have the answer, some starter nose cones are different for different aplications. Something is not lined up with the ring gear for one reason or another.
old guy,thanks for the input.i figured out the problem.the cone length does make a difference.standard uses the longer nosecone.the reason autozone has only one listing is that they use the longer nosecone,on all 302 maverick applications,whether it is auto.or man.,and whatever year.the part# is: DL3124. $37.99/$15 core. thanks again for all the suggestions and ideas,now i can go and time the thing,and hopefully hear it run!!!...chuck.
That's good info. I've been have a problem with noises that I think is due to a bad starter matchup. Is that the short nose (automatic) part number?
starter Bingo, we have a winner, told you so. If you have to shim a Ford starter, it's the wrong starter.
starter Bingo, we have a winner, told you so. If you have to shim a Ford starter, it's the wrong starter.
