The new Boss302...

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  1. Jamie Miles

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    dmhines Dixie Maverick Boy

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    Pretty cool ... and according to the article the base engines have heads utilizing stock exhaust locations which mean current 302 headers should work ...
     
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    Acornridgeman MCCI Wisconsin State Rep Moderator Supporting Member

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    Yes, interesting. And as usual they only mention the original Boss as coming in the Mustang. Many Cougar Eliminators were built with it too but they hardly ever get a mention. :cry:
     
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    It seems like a sales gimmick to me.
    The thing has Windsor based heads and intake.
    They gave it fancy 'Cleveland-like' valve covers to give it that Boss look.
    Nice covers though.
    Reminds me of the pent roof FE valve covers they make now for the SBF.
    Looks just like a mini-427 with those covers!

    Dave
     
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    hmmm, this block, CHI heads, 2 inch Tubular Auto headers, you got one screamer on your hands....
     
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    I was thinking more along the lines of:
    Man-O-War block in 4.155" bore/8.2 deck
    3.4 stroke
    AFR 205 heads

    Then you got a better engine than what they show there.
     
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    I agree with ratio411, stinking gimmick I'm disapointed that they arn't using cleavland style heads on the boss block.
     
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    Ratio, we will be running a Dart 8.2, 4.125x3.40, Dart 225 CNC's, but that Man-O-War w/ the 351 dizzy option allows you that option...But remember, nobody makes good tubes for the Windsor. That would make the CHI heads a good option for someone...Anyone

     
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    Yep...
    Gotta love the idea of the W pan rail on the 302 block!
    Plenty of swing room in there with the wide skirt.
    I guess the W distributor is used for it's heavier pump drive?

    Edit:

    Do you have a link for the CHI heads?
    They sound familiar, but I can't remember...
    Aren't they Austrailian aftermarket Cleveland heads?
     
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    Drive that combo 300 miles. The word is the Man O War blocks suck for cooling. :)
     
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    Am I missing something here? Couldn't you do that anyway?
     
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    PaulS Member extrordiare

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    I believe Ford has just showed us that the canted valve heads are not as efficient as they need to be at the capacities and flow rates that this engine can make use of. Lets face it they are making massive amounts of HP with in-line valves and stroking this 302 to beyond 360 cu". A 338 cu" engine with what was it - 600+ hp??? Where do you need to have 2.12" canted valves when you can get this kind of power using a design that has less stress and resultant wear than you can have with canted valves. Nascar proved that the ports on the 351C 4bbl heads were so large that even at 8000 rpm they were not as efficient as the in-line valve heads at much lower rpms. If the port and valve sizes are good enough to allow the engine to breath properly then why use the dual geometry valve train that gave Ford fits? I think this is a good thing as it proves that the hp is in the chamber design and not the valve angles and giant sizes.
    I suppose you could always put cleveland or "M" series heads on this small block just like you could with any of the other small blocks but Ford has mad a statement here that says it isn't worth the expense.
     
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    Paul I would have to disagree with you here. Nascar uses the Yates head which may not have as big an intake runner as the cleveland 4V, but they are a canted valve head. Ford just went this way because of ease of useage. Think about it, the valve train is readily available, the heads are already being made (they don't have to recreate a new head), it is the style of head configuration most compatible with 99% of small block Fords out there. It just makes dollar sense, but I wish they hadn't called it a BOSS.

    I love the Bogus Boss I idea, Toms motor is awesome. Another head to think about in this application is the Edelbrock aluminum cleveland head. I think they made it more bogus boss usable than the CHI head and for alot less money.
     
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    I like the idea of a 8.2 deck big cubic inch 302 Boss(360 cid) made by FoMoCo !!!! I did not see any mention of a roller cam.
     
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    I personally think it's awesome. I'd drop one in a Maverick and do it up Grabber Blue or Red with '70 Boss 302 stripes and everything.
     

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