Turn signal switch installation problem. . .

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  1. mashori

    mashori Member

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    I tackled my removal and assembly of my turn signal switch. A while back I got the little rebuild kit since the turn lever wouldn't stay in place. That didn't work so I decided to get the whole assembly. I have problem with it shorting out . . . here is what I did:

    Removed the steering wheel, removed the old assembly, removed the steering column support to remove the wire harness, disconnected wire harness and the blue light which lights up the shift selector, then just installed everything in reverse. Started driving it and noticed sparks between the housing of the steering wheel and the steering column, then the car would stutter and turn off or just stumble when I would turn the wheel. Removed everything again, re-inspected, cleaned and reinstalled, still did it. Removed horn assembly and reinstalled the steering wheel but still would spark and stumble.


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    Defective part? Any nicked wires? Can you see any evidence of arcing on anything?
     
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    no nicked wires and no arcing that I can see.
     
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    How about the wire that goes to the horn? Does it plug in and turn half way and lock?
     
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    You mean that metal assembly right? Yea, locks and turns just fine. I feel like the sparks are coming from that think. As it's rubbing on those 2 metal rods that have springs on them I hear sparks.
     
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    Not sure but might check the horn. I am sure that they go to the horn so maybe it needs to be looked at. Was the horn working?
     
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    Seems like if you're getting sparks some fuse should blow and you'd KNOW what circuit was shorting. Since its not, I'd be worried about fire and keep the battery ground strap loose.

    Might be an illusion, but the black wire looks like it has nicks.
     
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    the black wire goes to the key cylinder, that got replaced with the one from the new harness and I think it's just the picture I took that makes it look like that.

    The horn was working and is still working. Even when I remove the horn assembly I get the sparking. I suppose it could be the unit being defective. I'm thinking maybe also something is up with that metal plate that has the 2 black wires coming out, I don't know the name of it but the piece that you actually need to use a steering wheel puller for.
     
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    Those prongs or studs, they don't touch anything except the horn ring, correct? I'm thinking it's a defective part but since I am not there to physicaly look at it all, I could be wrong.
     
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    Did you put the column back in the same place? Is the gap between the steering wheel and column in the same place as it was before you took things apart?
     
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    Are the studs touching this
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    What's happening?
     
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    Ok, so I checked . . . the prongs are touching the horn ring. They seemed like they are sitting straight, they are kinda greasy, that normal?

    As for the space between the steering column and wheel, it's the same.
     
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    they are susposed to be greasy. can you get the sparks to happen with the steering wheel off?
    if you want i can take a look at it. call me if you want.
     
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    thanks Bryant. I'm at work the entire weekend, if I can get it to not spark then I can at least drive it over to your shop. I have a theory, I'm thinking maybe the prongs are not touching at the right places, maybe they are off just a litte so I'll check it out either tonight or early tomorrow morning.
     

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