Upper control arm squeak

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  1. 71_GT

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    Restoration project with new control arms. Greased them prior to install, level full of grease, won't take another ounce. I did install the 90 degree fittings for future greasing. I've got the dreaded squeak on both sides. Any thoughts or opinions on how to stop this?
     
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    May be the rubber seal (O-ring) inside shaft where it enters the end cups. Hit areas with some spray lubricant, if it doesn't help may be some other area or the grease wasn't forced into arm bushing. A little on top isn't usually enough. If you pressure grease, the o-ring will likely be blown.. That's case in my Cobra, still has original control arms, been greasing it since '70s. Neither it or Fairlane squeak. I pulled arms in my Fairlane (still had factory plugs) to verify bushings were still tight.
     
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    If you feel like getting rid of the metal bushings I have a pair of the Moog "Problem Solver" shaft kits that use rubber bushings I'd let go cheap. No more squeeks. Look up Moog K8233.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/387277455747
     
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    Wasn't aware of the moog kits. I believe my control arms are moog, as I normally buy moog parts if available. I am also seeing an 8131 kit that I hear are easier to get the bushings in. Anyone have any experience with those?
     
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    Just be sure the Moog parts you get are made in the USA. Moog isn't the same as it was years ago since Federal Mogul bought them out. Now their parts are made in 16 different countries with varying levels of quality.
     
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    Moog K8131 is a stock replacement with screw on metal bushings. Probably what's on your arms now. The K8233 uses rubber bushings that ride on a smooth shaft.
     
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    Found my problem. For whatever reason, the control arm is rubbing the backside of the shock tower at the ends of the shaft. I ground the edges off and it seems to be okay. Thanks for the help
     
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    Good! Easy fix.
     
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    What I don't understand is that mounting the upper control arm in rubber is fine, but rubber spring perches are no good?

    I'd far rather have my control arms mounted solidly vs spring mounts.
     
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    With rubber bushed spring perches the rubber is adhered to the outer shell and the pivot shaft. Makes the perch hard to move and not very compliant. The perches on early Falcons with this suspension had brass bushings with zerk fittings. They worked great but most people didn't keep them lubed so they wore out and made noise. And the bean counters figured out the rubber bushed parts were cheaper to produce.
     

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