Posted by Mark W on July 12, 1998 at 13:09:13:
In Reply to: Re: 302 vs 351w posted by T.L. on July 12, 1998 at 00:10:16:
1. 351's do not have 5/16 rod bolts. They are 3/8.Pump shaft
is larger, also.Good bolts and strong shafts are SOP, at least
in my shop, even on stock rebuilds.
2. These are not PAPER FIGURES!!! By God, I live and work
in the real world, and what I said here are times my customers
have turned in similar cars, and hp and torque were taken on
Gary Duckworth's dyno. I'm at the track several times a
month, helping and watching customers, and I see what
I reported.One of my guys is knocking at the ten second
door with one of my 347's, no power adder, and street driven.
3. My street-driven, 306 Maverick turned 12.68 with street
tires and stiff suspension in 1990. With a looser suspension,
better convertor, and 4.57s, it went 11.80's in 1991. I fully
expect the 377C car I am building at the moment to go TENS in
streetable trim. We have some NINE SECOND cars that regularly
street race in this area(Mostly BB Chevs).
4. A 450hp motor in a light chassis(say, 2800lbs w/driver),
should be good for EASY mid tens. High 11's... what a roach!
Cars like that are what make people laugh at Fords, and I have
to continually explain em away to my Chevy customers.
5. The 351 block is MUCH stouter than the 302 block, as my junk
hauling guy will testify,as he rarely sees a 351.
6. Enlighten me. Other than an extra 30 minutes to change plugs
every 2 YEARS or so, why is a 351 harder to install or maintain?
7. EVERY one of my customers who has switched from a 302 to a 351
has wondered why they didn't do it sooner.
8. Notice the engine I spoke of does not have Ford heads. By the time
you rework em to a decent level, you've spent more than a set of iron
Darts.
9. These are my REAL WORLD opinions, based on my experience and customer
base feedback. If you disagree, you are stupid and were born of dogs,
BUT DON"T TELL ME THEY ARE NOT REAL WORLD.Dream world is people on the
Internet who want detailed price quotes on a $2500 set of heads, but
couldn't cover a $50 check. "Right dude, we'll just GIVE em to ya.Shipping?
Yeah, we'll pick that up too."
10.Stephen, I'm in a suburb of St. Louis, MO.
Mark Workman
Workmonster Racing Engines
Chesterfield, MO 314-527-3943
Building and Racing Fords since 1966