Posted by T.L. (IP: 207.205.182.133) on May 21, 2000 at 13:00:43:
In Reply to: Re: Excuse me but... posted by roadrage on May 21, 2000 at 10:08:45:
The guy was talking about a stroker kit for a 302 (which is a 347) and you go off RAMBLING about 351 and 428 engines...You also stated the OBVIOUS which just about everyone on this board already knows--and all in caps. Only a dumbass would do that...
: : Not only did you NOT answer the guy's question but a "stroker kit" does not make the 302 any bigger externally so fitting into a Maverick is not even an issue. You rambled on about a whole bunch of other stuff that had virtually nothing to do with what he asked...
: : : contrary to popular belief, a 302 is a very potent little motor.
: : : all this talk of 351 windsors, clevelands, and 428's in a maverick, strike me as over-kill. the 302 itself, barely fits in. i dont understand why anyone would go through all that trouble and expense to adapt a motor that the car was not engineered for.
: EXCUSE ME IF I RAMBLE SIR.
: I THINK MY INITIAL POINT WAS COMPLETELY MISSED. PLEASE LISTEN CLOSELY.
: A 302 ENGINE PHYSICALLY FITS WITHIN A MAVERICKS ENGINE BAY EASIER THAN ANY OTHER V8. (AND ITS VERY TIGHT) AND YES, A STROKER ENGINE DOES NOT INCREASE THE PHYSICAL SIZE. BUT A 351 BLOCK OR A 428 MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
: MY POINT WAS DIRECTED MORE TO SOMEONE WHO WRONGLY BELIEVES THEY NEED TO PUT COSTLY OR LARGER ENGINES IN THEIR CARS TO GO FAST. THE POINT IS..
: ITS RELATIVELY SIMPLE AND INEXPENSIVE TO MAKE A 302 FLY.
: IF YOU HAVE BOTTOMLESS POCKET BOOKS THEN (THE MARJORITY OF US DONT)FEEL FREE TO BLOW IT ALL YOUR MONEY ON THE REQUIRED BRAKING AND SUSPENSION UPGRADES. IM SURE YOU CAN ENGINEER A MAVERICK TO DEAL WITH THE UNDERSTEER, CUSTOM MOUNTS, RELOCATING RADIATORS, SHOCK TOWERS, ETC, AND OTHER RELATED PROBLEMS PROBLEMS YOU WILL ENCOUNTER WHEN YOU INSTALL A FOREIGN MOTOR. DONT WORRY ABOUT SLICING UP YOUR MAVERICK. YOU ARE WEALTHY AND IT OBVIOUSLY ISNT AN ISSUE WITH YOU.
: I REALLY DONT CARE WHAT PEOPLE DO WITH THEIR CARS. I JUST THOUGHT I WAS BEING A VOICE OF REASON.
: I DID NOT ATTEMPT TO TACKLE THE ISSUE OF A STROKER KIT AT ALL. I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE SEEN 1ST HAND, WHAT A WELL BUILT 302/WITH 289 RODS CAN DO.
: THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR CUBIC INCHES. A 428 OR A STROKER, OF COURSE CAN MAKE MORE POWER THAN A 302. IT JUST OFFERS 10 TIMES THE HEADACHES AND EXPENSE, WHEN INSTALLED INTO A SUB-COMPACT BODY.
: AND FOR ANYONE WHO WANTS SPECIFICS ON THE 302/289 TRICK....
: PLEASE FIND "THE FORD PERFORMANCE BOOK" BY PAT GANAHL. THIS IS WHERE THE TRICK IS VERY WELL ILLUSTRATED AND DOCUMENTED.
: IVE NEVER DONE IT TO ONE OF MY CARS, BUT I PLAN ON DOING SO. MY MAVERICK IS GOING TO KICK SOME SERIOUS ASS, AND STILL LOOK LIKE A MAVERICK ENGINE.
: MY GUESS IS IT WILL RUN CIRCLES AROUND YOUR FRANKENSTIEN MAVERICKS, AT A FRACTION OF THE EXPENSE. AND WILL NOT HAVE ALL KINDS OF ENGINEERING DEFECTS WHEN ITS ALL DONE.