400 hp from a 302?

Discussion in 'Technical' started by random hero, Jun 23, 2007.

  1. T.L.

    T.L. Banned

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2002
    Messages:
    4,187
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Southern Colorado
    Vehicle:
    '73 Maverick 2-door, V-8
    But well over 6000 RPM...
     
  2. eddie1975

    eddie1975 Windsor Specialist

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2006
    Messages:
    3,226
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Martinsburg, WV
    Vehicle:
    sold


    yeah i know, but he wants 400hp , that set up should be good to 7k
    it would be a fast street car
     
  3. newtoford

    newtoford Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2006
    Messages:
    5,475
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    157
    Location:
    New Castle Delaware
    Vehicle:
    '76 Maverick, '76 Comet, 78 Monte Carlo, '85 Cutlass Supreme, '86 Regal Limited, '87 Grand Prix
    all im sayin is that i think youll be happier with a street car making a boat load of low end tq rather than an engine that makes peak power at a high rpm.
     
  4. mcknight77

    mcknight77 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    347
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    102
    Location:
    Boise, ID
    Vehicle:
    74 Mav drag car, 1970 Maverick, 1971 Bronco, 66 Nova, 67 Ranchero
    No reason to sacrifice either. Read the article I posted. That engine is making 300+ torque at 3000 rpm. Max power is at 6200 rpm.
     
  5. baddad457

    baddad457 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    5,861
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    171
    Location:
    Opelousas La.
    I'm beginning to wonder if the rest CAN read. ;) Only thing I'd do different on the buiild you listed is go with a highrise dual plane like the RPM's or Ford's A321 and a Duraspark or Pertronix ignition.
     
  6. Country Mav

    Country Mav Die-Hard Ford Guy!

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    1,770
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    130
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Evans, Louisiana
    Vehicle:
    72 2-door Maverick 308/C-4
    Is there any particular reason why you don't want to spin over 6000? Just curious. I agree with the others.....400 shouldn't be out of reach. Not with the stuff you can get today. Good Luck!!
     
  7. mcknight77

    mcknight77 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2004
    Messages:
    347
    Likes Received:
    25
    Trophy Points:
    102
    Location:
    Boise, ID
    Vehicle:
    74 Mav drag car, 1970 Maverick, 1971 Bronco, 66 Nova, 67 Ranchero
    Engines with hydraulic roller cams don't do well much above 6000 due to the weight of the valvetrain. It takes an exceptional valvespring to stave off valve float. However, the good news is that that same hydraulic roller will make more midrange torque and power. That's why Ford went to them in the 5.0.

    Plus, stock rods are iffy above 6000. Good rodbolts helps, but......

    The beauty of the setup is a stock (read cheap) bottom-end and good heads and roller cam will make great power.
     
  8. baddad457

    baddad457 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    5,861
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    171
    Location:
    Opelousas La.
    Invest in better roller lifters than the stock Ford's and it'll spin to 7500 without problems. Crane sells stock type replacements that will do this. These are what I have in my 331. They cost about $50 more than new Ford lifters. I think Comp Cams sells these too. The stock rods (C8OE's, not the later F1TE rod) are good to 7500 too as long as you swap the bolts to ARP's.
     
  9. greasemonkey

    greasemonkey Burnin corn

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Messages:
    2,406
    Likes Received:
    204
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Sedalia,MO
    Vehicle:
    1973 ford maverick Grabber,2017 dodge ram,88t-bird,indian scout,Indian Chieftain.95 Mustang GT
    Last edited: Jun 24, 2007
  10. baddad457

    baddad457 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2007
    Messages:
    5,861
    Likes Received:
    141
    Trophy Points:
    171
    Location:
    Opelousas La.
    :D Funny how ALL three make 400 hp at 6000;)
     
  11. greasemonkey

    greasemonkey Burnin corn

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Messages:
    2,406
    Likes Received:
    204
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Sedalia,MO
    Vehicle:
    1973 ford maverick Grabber,2017 dodge ram,88t-bird,indian scout,Indian Chieftain.95 Mustang GT
    Thay are awfully similar.
     
  12. maverick75

    maverick75 Gotta Love Mavs!

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2005
    Messages:
    9,014
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    172
    Location:
    Riverside, California
    Vehicle:
    The mav is gone but i'm still here!
    How about 399 @ 6,000...terry sent me these specs on a 306 with :

    TrickFlow Twisted Wedge Heads - TFS-5140002
    Edelbrock Victor, Jr. Intake
    Holley 650
    Hooker 6901
    Crane hydraulic flat-tappett CR364551
    comp Ratio 9.43
     

    Attached Files:

    • 306.JPG
      306.JPG
      File size:
      117.3 KB
      Views:
      18
  13. greasemonkey

    greasemonkey Burnin corn

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2005
    Messages:
    2,406
    Likes Received:
    204
    Trophy Points:
    208
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Sedalia,MO
    Vehicle:
    1973 ford maverick Grabber,2017 dodge ram,88t-bird,indian scout,Indian Chieftain.95 Mustang GT
    Not bad,
    that would make a quick street car.
     
  14. ford84stepside

    ford84stepside Lone Wolf

    Joined:
    Nov 25, 2004
    Messages:
    4,038
    Likes Received:
    16
    Trophy Points:
    132
    Location:
    Berry Alabama
    Vehicle:
    1947 Lincoln Zephyr Coupe
    The question is, Horspower cost money, how much can you afford? A lot of different ways to go here, some more cost effect than others. Best bet would be to talk to a knowledgeable engine builer, tell them what you want, and get his price. Then decide if you can afford it. If you can, go for it!
     
  15. 72MAVGRABHER

    72MAVGRABHER Maverick Mechanic

    Joined:
    Sep 5, 2002
    Messages:
    693
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    127
    Location:
    Roanoke, Va.
    Vehicle:
    1972 Maverick Grabber Restomod (Read signature)
    My naturally aspirated 347 makes 422hp/ 440 tq. at flywheel with belt driven water pump and it's the chp non oil burning kit.(in dyno* with ideal conditions... also, this is at the flywheel, so after tranny, rear gears... etc... i'm a little under 400. I dont spin it above 6K and it's 10.0 : 1 compression.
    thats with the edelbrock performer rpm heads with 2.02 valves
    rpm cam, and intake. harland sharp roller tip rockers, windage tray, and the entire rotating assembly is balanced.

    ohh... for safety reasons its a good idea to go with a main girdle if you want to spin any real rpms for a bit. and an SFI flexplate/flywheel are pretty cheap.... think my scat one was 90 bucks...

    balancing helps a lot....

    but uh..... i have a little over 4k in it with having to purchase the valve covers,HV fuel pump, oil pump, and oil pan.HEI distributor, etc.. other various items.... so that might be too far out there for some..

    build it right... lol. Note: you can build the same power for less money... some of my money went to that "just in case" like the main girdle, scat flexplate, stud girdles, arp bolts. etc.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2007

Share This Page