Not a boat anchor, but go buy a new cam.............er CAMS for it. Or aftermarket heads. or a diffferent induction package. That's where you start seeing the difference. For what you'll spend, you may as well build a SOHC 427
I know a guy with over 600000 miles on a 4.6, seems pretty good to me. I'd take a terminator Cobra engine anyday!
You should put some 427 SOHC emblems on I love the aesthetics of mod engines, they look just like the famous cammer when they're all dressed up.
Or just boost it, we've all seen how these engines shine with forced induction I don't think the price tag will come close to building a FE cammer, just the heads will cost more than the car!
mod engines in comet Hello all, As I said in my previous post the 4.6 engine particularly the ones out of the 95-98 lincoln Mark V111 with the light weight aluminum blocks are great engines. So far I have successfully done three restorods in old falcons (1964) with these engines and with the aluminum block they weigh about the same as a small block ford and they run strong. With the 4 valves per cyl they breath like a thouroughbred at mid to higher RPMs.I can answer questions as to how to-- if you guys need any particulars.I can answer questions as to what fits or works like Transmissions and flywheels and special intakes that can be made if you want to go carbureted and wiring and ignition systems. I have learned much by trail and error and I am willing to share with the forum
Mod motor install your right , with the width of the 4 cam 4.6 mod motor and some dressing up these engines look awesome. They fill the engine compartment and somewhat resemble the 427 sohc engine with the exception that the distributor is missing on the mod motor.I have won best engine at several shows and best engineering on several with this set up
Well, the 4.6l in my 97 Mustang Cobra was no boat anchor. Put out close to 300hp to the rear wheels and never touched the inside of the motor, it did 140+ in 4th gear during the Silver States Classic. I think it would safe to say that I could build at least 3ea of the 4.6l 4v that would put out as much HP as the SOHC and still be south of the $30+k it would take to build one. Kind of like building a Boss429. And talking with some knowledge behind me, even to put together a decent running 427 side oiler these days it takes a ton of money..............and experience. You can ask me how I know.....................I raced a 63-1/2 427 Galaxie when they were realatively expensive to build and maintain...........now they are just over the top!
Hate to burst anyones bubble here, but moduler motors are TRASH ( point blank no way around it ). I work on them 5 days a week, they are dependable and cheap for Ford to produce, but the HP stock with no power adders leave me very UNIMPRESSED. Exception ( new 5.0 ) this thing comes off the factory line ready to eat it's own ancestors. You can build a old pushrod motor that will walk the dog stick on any of em for under 5k, then put that in your Mav and after you smoke a few mods ask em how 5k whops 40k ?
I have to disagree with your statement. I own a '96 Crown Vic Police Interceptor with the 4.6 in it and I definately would not call it slow! I also like the reliability of it. I have done nothing but regular maint. and change out the crack prone plastic intake manifold on it for the 8 years I've owned the car. If it weren't for the cost of everything involved in the swap, I would not hesitate one minute to drop one in my Comet GT. Nope, the veriable venturi carbs used on the late 70's to early 80's 302 and 351 engines tops that one hands down. Those P.O.S. lumps of scrap NEVER worked well!!! -Scott H.
Well at least you have one person on here who agrees with ya didi, and guess what ---- Ford has been giving me paychecks for the last 20 years ! As far as hp is concernd old 5.0s and 5.8s win everytime.
Why, yes I am I love the mod motors..... great engines and if you really know about them you can make just as much hp and be a tad lighter if you use the aluminum block and heads than a 302.......and forget if you boost a 4.6l vrs even a boosted 5.0l the 5.0l will be scattered in pieces (even purpose built) and blowin head gaskets every other day.....and the lil ole 281 will keep buzzin..... My buddy has an e85 trickflow headed 4.6l sohc and runs low 11s all motor.....add the sauce (100hp) it runs an easy low 10 and then I got many buddies pullin 600 to 800 hp boosted 4.6l sohc ....... and you will just have to see what mine ends up being......but the short block just got back in my hands from Bischoff's machine shop..... I will say my compression is either 14.5 to 1 or it is 8.0 to 1...... Just to add I have never seen a 302 push this kinda power /times/speed ever.....and you never will.....the blocks just cant handle it....now maybe a manowar block but that aint factory...... Realize this is a stock block engine and factory dohc heads.....there are no after market ones available..... John Mihovetz 4.6l dohc world record 6.18@ 235mph
I know alot of people who have set 671s on top of their 302s and they have had no head gaskets issues or bottom end scatter, i guess it's all in who builds it.
lol 671s......lets throw 30 lbs of boost and see what happens....671s maybe can put out 10 to 12 most guys run 6 to 8 with purpose built motors.... not stock........ they look awesome sure....i will give you that....and again you wont do that with a stock 302 and make it live.....it just will not happen....but people routinley do it with 4.6ls.....gotta buddies cobra runs low 9s high 8s depending on the tune....motor is all stock except a valve job and a very mild port job..... build a twin turbo 302 and port the factory heads...you must use a factory crank and rods and pstons.....in other words an untouched 302 that came out of a factory production car...... if it can run low 9s with roughly 150 passes I will admit I am wrong till then.....you can keep your 302s.....:Handshake
