Front springs too stiff

Discussion in 'General Maverick/Comet' started by scs, Oct 13, 2014.

  1. Hottrod1991

    Hottrod1991 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    747
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    PGH,PA
    Vehicle:
    73 maverick
    The more coils you cut off the original spring, the stiffer the spring g rate becomes..let alone the more coils you cut the more suspension travel you loose..
    Neither is exactly a good thing
     
  2. rotorr22

    rotorr22 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,302
    Likes Received:
    259
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Location:
    Columbiana, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2018 F150 XLT/5.0, 2014 Focus 5 spd manual,1974 Maverick Grabber, 1986 Thunderbird Elan 5.0/AOD
    Which begs the question, how does an iron 200 I6 compare in weight to an aluminum headed 5.0 SB with an aluminum intake and water pump?
     
  3. scs

    scs Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2014
    Messages:
    272
    Likes Received:
    219
    Trophy Points:
    95
    Location:
    Prescott wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    1972 Maverick Grabber
    Thanks all, I will check the uninstall height specs after I remove them, after I buy a spring compression tool which I was hoping to avoid. It sounds reasonable that it is not a good idea to cut too much spring out. I will add an update in a few weeks after I get to this. Everything has slowed down on this project and I may need to add these springs to my ever increasing stock of parts ordered but not used!
     
  4. Krazy Comet

    Krazy Comet Tom

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2012
    Messages:
    7,719
    Likes Received:
    2,434
    Trophy Points:
    531
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Chesapeake VA
    Vehicle:
    1972 Comet GT clone 306 . 1969 Fairlane Cobra 428CJ 1988 T-Bird awaiting 331 ..
    I honestly dunno which is why I said I'm going to try the 6cyl springs... Only have $20 in them, not the end of world if I have to cut down the orig and reinstall those...

    Not a Mav/Comet but as a reference when I installed a alu headed, intake, WP, ect 5.0 in my '88 T-Bird that orig had the turbo-4, the suspension only dropped approx 3/8"... Was sure I'd need 5.0 springs in it...
     
  5. Rasit

    Rasit Member

    Joined:
    May 21, 2013
    Messages:
    411
    Likes Received:
    84
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    SE Pennsylvania
    Vehicle:
    1971 Comet GT
    How did you get them in without a compression tool?
     
    Crazy Larry likes this.
  6. Hottrod1991

    Hottrod1991 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    747
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    PGH,PA
    Vehicle:
    73 maverick
    200 i6 weighs 385 lbs
    302 weighs 460 lbs
    I'd imagine aluminum heads and intake it'd be at 400
     
  7. Bryant

    Bryant forgot more than learned

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2007
    Messages:
    6,538
    Likes Received:
    153
    Trophy Points:
    203
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    San Diego
    Vehicle:
    71 Maverick
    the I6 motor hangs further past the front axle center line. this puts move of its weight on the front springs the the v8 does. i remember people saying in a past thread that the I6 spring rates are higher than the v8 spring rates. im not entirely sure about that.

    usually switching to aluminum heads drops close to 40lbs off a sbf. im sure the aluminum water pump drops some real weight also over the cast iron ones. an aluminum intake will also drop a considerable amount. i would guess that all 3 of the changes removes over 60 lbs from the front of the car.
     
  8. GrabberGT

    GrabberGT Chris

    Joined:
    Sep 22, 2003
    Messages:
    1,626
    Likes Received:
    137
    Trophy Points:
    182
    Location:
    Fort Worth Texas
    Vehicle:
    72 Grabber 302
    Its been a while since I've looked at a stock spring but that cant possibly be right (original picture). Once you check the uninstalled height and find them to be the incorrect spring, be sure not to just cut to length. Its likely also the incorrect spring rate. Send them back for the right part.
     
    Paul Masson likes this.
  9. rotorr22

    rotorr22 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,302
    Likes Received:
    259
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Location:
    Columbiana, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2018 F150 XLT/5.0, 2014 Focus 5 spd manual,1974 Maverick Grabber, 1986 Thunderbird Elan 5.0/AOD
    In addition to the above, I will also have to add an aluminum oil pump, removal of the A/C compressor& evap., moving the battery to the trunk, small bumper swap, mini starter, steering box (going to R&P). Before I started the project my car sat too high in the front as it was!
     
  10. Krazy Comet

    Krazy Comet Tom

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2012
    Messages:
    7,719
    Likes Received:
    2,434
    Trophy Points:
    531
    Garage:
    1
    Location:
    Chesapeake VA
    Vehicle:
    1972 Comet GT clone 306 . 1969 Fairlane Cobra 428CJ 1988 T-Bird awaiting 331 ..
    Here's pict of mine taken back last winter with orig spring reinstalled...

    I've also removed air cond compressor but will be reinstalled... Still I'm surprised mine sets so high, allowing for some ageing, would thought orig springs would be just about perfect...

    [​IMG]
     
  11. OLD GOOSE

    OLD GOOSE Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2011
    Messages:
    656
    Likes Received:
    59
    Trophy Points:
    101
    Location:
    WV
    Vehicle:
    1972 ford maverick
    yup wrong spring
     
  12. rotorr22

    rotorr22 Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    1,302
    Likes Received:
    259
    Trophy Points:
    211
    Location:
    Columbiana, Ohio
    Vehicle:
    2018 F150 XLT/5.0, 2014 Focus 5 spd manual,1974 Maverick Grabber, 1986 Thunderbird Elan 5.0/AOD
    I had been planning to go with adjustable coilovers when the car comes back from the body shop. Reading threads like these reinforces my concerns about using a conventional spring, since I hate removing and installing them more than once.
     
  13. scs

    scs Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2014
    Messages:
    272
    Likes Received:
    219
    Trophy Points:
    95
    Location:
    Prescott wisconsin
    Vehicle:
    1972 Maverick Grabber
    Pulleys! No, I rented one. Now it is clear I will have to buy one since this will be trial and error. I got my compression tool today and I just pulled one out after about an hour of scary high risk work. The uninstall height is right (about 16.5 inches). I will start cutting! Going with 1 1/2 coils to start.
     
  14. Crazy Larry

    Crazy Larry Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2005
    Messages:
    3,557
    Likes Received:
    603
    Trophy Points:
    287
    Location:
    Wichita, Kansas
    Vehicle:
    '73 Maverick 2-door, 302, manual trans
    Be careful, & good luck.
     
  15. Hottrod1991

    Hottrod1991 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2008
    Messages:
    747
    Likes Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    PGH,PA
    Vehicle:
    73 maverick
    Ride tech coil overs are the best as they're a true coil over versus a hybrid coilover like QA1 and Viking
     

Share This Page