Gear Ratio

Discussion in 'General Maverick/Comet' started by texasbb14, Oct 1, 2014.

  1. mojo

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    I agree w/ Larry, running 26" tires vs 27/28 tires wud' nt be noticeable, for the most part. I run 26" tires, 2.79 gears, mild cam, long tube headers, 600 Holley and at 70mph running a hair below 3K rpms. I drive my car to distant events, local events and I wud'nt change to 3.55's w/o going to OD trans. I accept the fact of not having jack-rabbit acceleration, a price I accept for reasonable fuel mpg, less drv train noise and cooler running engine. Not driving much highway -- go for the taller gears.
     
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    You guys are seemingly underestimating what just 1 inch of diameter change has on speeds and what rpm at which it occurs. For every 1 inch of change.. you gain or lose about 3 mph for the same rpm. Would be similar to changing from a 3.00 rear gear to a 3.12 gear.. and 2 inches would be like going from a 3.00 to a 3.25 final drive. That's not what most people would call "not noticeable".

    A 235/70/15 tire is 28 inches. A 275/60/15 tire is also 28 inches. A 255/65/15 = 28 inches. Even a lowly 235/70/14 is 27 inches. All these tires fill the wheel-wells of our cars quite nicely and add to the hot rod look. Personally speaking.. I don't like a low profile tires unless they're sitting on rims at least 2 sizes larger than stock simply because they don't fill out the wheel-wells enough to get rid of the daylight.

    I also think you guys may seriously underestimate what a 17 year old kid gravitates towards when it comes to bang for buck of a gear swap. Going through all the trouble and expense to go from a 2.79 to a 3.00 would likely not satisfy most people under 20 and leave them feeling gypped. Torque multiplication is worth every penny when done right and can be leveraged through tire diameter and/or gear swaps.

    Also.. rpm alone is not what makes gas mileage go down the tubes. Efficiency @ a particular rpm(BMEP) has much to do with final mileage. CUBIC INCHES has a big impact on fuel requirements as well and 302 of them in well tuned fashion can easily get near 20 mpg in a light car even with these dreaded 3.55's. If it can't come close?.. I always keep on tuning until it does. Upping compression also helps efficiency in a big way.
     
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    Mel Moeller Maverick Moe

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    This thread got up my curiosity. :idea:
    I knew that I had a Posi Unit in my 71 Maverick when I bought it but I did not know what. I was planning on using a new C4 with a Stage 2 shift kit that I own or else a 4 Speed top loader that I own. AFter checking my numbers I see that I have a 8.8 Montaineer 3.73 rear end. I am now going to have to sell my C4 and my top loader and find a T5. My engine is a new 360HP 302 for street driving and I don't want to drive it all wound up on the country roads.
    I definitely decided I want an overdrive with this rear end thanks to this thread. The 8.8 rear end is a cheap one to run and if I have to replace it then it's easy.
     
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    'Sorry, but no way in hell will anyone get 20mpg out of a 302 with 3.55 gears at highway speeds.
    I've experimented with different tire diameters on my car, and the difference in RPMs is miniscule.
    A 26-inch tire fills the wheel opening on a Maverick. These cars do not have very big wheel arches.
    You can see how member "Grabber GT" modified his wheel arches for those big wheels & tires (and yes, it does look good).

    If someone wants 3.55s, that's what they should have, but if they don't know what they're in for, they could be disappointed. I have run 2.79s (my original ratio), 3.55s, and 3.40s. I like the 3.40s the best.
    Of course if I had a overdrive tranny, I'd probably like 3.70s or 3.80s.
     
  5. Krazy Comet

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    You'd love 'em, with the common .68 O/D, final ratio is 2.52 with 3.70 & 2.58 with 3.80..
    4.11 x .68 equals 2.79...

    Here's a chart that list RPMs for common gears and tire height...

    http://www.metropartsmarket.com/rearend/ratio.html

    Note final ratio with O/D will require a little figuring but the 32% mentioned is .68... Far easier to multiply by percentage remaining(.68) vs .32 then subtracting from ratio... Either method will produce same answer...
     
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    I run to 3 89 9.0 inch with 26 inch tall tires run about 2800 rpms 55 just around town then to the strip
     
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    Okay, lazy sunday in garage. Reading old post and ran into this.


    Texasbb14 i,d love to know what you ended up doing?
     
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    Ike, I have come a long way in these 6 years haha. Had a lot of help from other members and from my father-in-law who also has a passion for cars(restoring his 1968 Olds 442 Sport). Worked out a few great deals with some people and here is the car as it stands now.

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    Rebuilt Ford 8" Rear End. (Had the 2.79 in it. Ended up switching it out my self for the 3.25. After reading everyone's thoughts on it I did not want to go with something to high that would leave the car screaming on the hwy. I wanted to get something that would give me a little more power but not to the point of sacrificing gas mileage and comfortably at highway speeds)

    I have bucket seats that new to be recovered and put in and replace the door panels. I have the driver side of the card sanded and primed. Hoping to get it painted this year at some point.
     
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    Texasbb14

    Awesome update! Your setup is sweet including gear selection. An all around balanced car is what its all about. Well done Sir!
     
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