need help, 1 more problem on my maverick

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  1. Jamie Miles

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    Make a post in the parts wanted section for the frame mounts. You should be able to buy the rubber motor mounts new at about any auto parts store. Don't forget you will also need the correct manifolds or headers, and you'll have to have new exhaust ran. You're also going to need a new radiator, that little 170 radiator isn't going to work.

    You think it's going to take you a week to swap, but if this is your first time doing it, I can almost promise it will take the better part of a month and going to cost twice as much as you think it will.
     
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    yea your probaly right but i am hoping to have a couple of buddies help out but you know how that goes you can never depend on no one. i know that i will be changing out alot of parts and i will post on the wanted page the parts i need but if you know about any let me know. I will keep you updated on the project and thanks again for all the help you guys really know what you are talking about
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    Replacing an engine for a timing set is not wise. Just replace the timing chain and sprockets.
     
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    I had a box of old parts and seen a old dist. in there it was alittle longer than mine and the gear looked like it could have been alittle bigger but not sure the gear was busted up couple of pieces missing so i could not tell. i put it down in the dist. hole but did not force it i turned the bottom pulley backwards and the rotor spinned then i turned it forward and the rotor spinned, i dont know if this will help to diagnose the problem but do you still think its the timing chain. is the timing chain alittle to the right and little behind bottom pulley pretty sure just would like a second option. i figured since i was going to put the 302 in eventually, i might as well do it when i have the radiator and fan out. but i am going to try to do the timing chain if you can get back to me to reassure where the timing chain is. thanks alot still looking for those parts for when i do swap it out.
     
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    Do you have a 302 or a 351W?
    A distributor for a 302 will not fit a 351. The 351W oil drive shaft is larger and the shaft is longer.
     
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    170 is in the car i dont know what the dist went to. i found it in a box of parts
     
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    If you can't turn the distributor when it is in the engine and it doesn't turn when the crankshaft turns then you probably have a stretched timing chain or a broken cam sprocket.
    Just replace it and forget it. If you want a performance upgrade then get a 200 and bolt it in. If you want more performance then before you put the 200 in have a two barrel mounted to the manifold and throw a cam in with headers.
     
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    is the...oil pump drive...still in the...oil pump...(it fits in the end of the dist.):huh:
    not that it has anything to do with your prob.(only if the dist. will not go all the way down) but it will be the next problem when you get it running...(y)
    you have mentioned putting the dist. in and out a few times.turnning the motor with the dist. out but haven't said anything about not being able to get the dist. back in all the way at any time...:huh:

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    i took the old dist. that came out of the car not the one that was in the box and i lined them up and i seen the bottom hole was way bigger than the bottom hole of the other one. so i figured that maybe thats the reason why the one out the box was turning cause the hole was bigger. so i took the old one that came of car not the one i found in box and i popped the gear off it put it all the way down in engine mounted the screw to hold it down tight and it still would not spin. so this is why i think its the oil pump because the oil pump is in the bottom and i believe i may be wrong that the oil pump controls the spinning of the dist. to. when i pull the dist. out and look in the hole while trying to crank the engine i see the gear spinning, if it was a stretch timing wouldnt it not spin? if it is the oil pump when i take the oil pan off theres two bars that goes across hooking to the wheels one in front and one in back, do i have to take these out the get oil pan out or can i just take one out? Thanks alot you guys!:thumbs2:
     
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    The distributor is turned by the cam shaft. That gear you see turning in there is actually part of the cam shaft. The hole in the bottom is to engage the little drive shaft that turns the oil pump. The oil pump is turned by the distributor which is turned by the cam shaft. If you are trying to put a distributor in that has a smaller hole in the bottom then the original, then the oil pump shaft will not be able to fit up inside it, causing the distributor to not seat all the way down, therefore the gear on the distributor will not engage the gear on the cam, causing the distributor to not rotate. Can you post a pic of both distributors?
     
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    i pulled the rod out of the oil pump not sure what its called i stuck it into the dist. hole of the one that came out the box and you can see the hole is way to big i stuck it in the other it fit just perfect so i pushed it down in there. if my oil pump is locked up and would not turn would it cause the gear not to spin? will get pictures soon, need new camera.
     
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    I would think it would twist/shear the oil pump shaft or shear the roll pin that holds the gear on the distributor before it would stop the distributor from spinning, unless your timing chain is just absolutely terrible like Paul was saying.
     
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    ...how did you...pop...the gear off...:huh:

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    with a little nail the dist gear the old 1 not the new 1 or the 1 in the box
     
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    i think ...the little nail...answered my question. i was wanting to know if the ...pin...was a...whole pin...(y)

    ...:Handshake...
     

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