Stroker Crank alone does....

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  1. Country Mav

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    There are many other "off" sizes of stroker motors. I have a book where you can order a 327 kit among others. It's hard to justify discounting a certain size engine as being non-existent or unlikely (355 for example) just because a person has never heard of it. For the 351 there are MANY off-the-wall sized stroker kits (I mean other than 393/408/427/460 etc) and more are being added by different manufacturers on a regular basis. As for stating that Mavman needs to read up on his facts, friend I am saying this merely to tell you that he is more knowledgeable on Ford engines than most any other 2 people that I know. He has offered his advice and knowledge to me and many, many others here on the board and I have never found fault with nor been misled by anything he has said. Please realize that I am not trying to start trouble, I am just trying to say that just because we haven't heard of something is no reason to call B.S.- UNLESS research has been done that proves that they are wrong. And even then, unless it's gonna cause a disaster......I usually let it slide. Anyway, just trying to avoid possible trouble between members. If I'm out of line, I'll sure enough say I'm sorry. Y'all take care!
     
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    You're not providing nearly enough information to answer that question.

    The more money you spend, the more power it could produce...
     
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    I'm just trying to get answers, for if I take my 302 and install the Eldelbrock "Power Package Pro Top End Kit" will my stock bottom withstand the abuse?
     
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    Well, how many miles do you have on your motor? And what kind of miles are they? Easy driving? Runnin' the dog-crap out of it? What kind of shape is it in? Burn or use any oil? Any strange noises? Still need a little bit more information before we can say yea or nay and be pretty sure. But we're gettin' there! Country
     
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    Junkyard short block 302 motor from a 93 mustang, with 43,266 miles on the clock.
    :Woot:(Odometer was checked for roll-back & engine was checked for leak down)
     
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    Great way to start this engine project!(y)
     
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    :D A "355" isn't a stroker kit, it's a .030 over bored Chevy 350. A "327" stroker kit for a Ford 302 block isn't an off the wall item either, it's simply a std bore pistoned kit that uses the same crank (3.25") as the 331 stroker kits use. . I've done my homework.:tiphat: I'm well aware of what's out there.
     
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    We are talking Fords here not Brand X
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/306-...1062658QQihZ008QQcategoryZ33620QQcmdZViewItem


     
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    in most cases a longer stroke means more low end torque while cylinder bore makes more top end power. dont get me worng, theres definatly alot more to it than that.

    my buddy just put a 347 stroker in his fairlane, definatly a nice piece.
     
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    Well now, this has been a very interesting post to follow. The original question was about just installing a longer stroked crank in a 302 without using matching rods and pistons. Most of the answers were pretty much on target, but one or two from a fellow who say's he has done his research, were a bit erronious. There are 355 kits for our beloved 302's and just reading the info posted by Maverick 1970, should end the conflict, and who knows everything about everything. Being around this game of cars and engines for almost 67 years, I am still a dumbass on lot's of things, especially the newer stuff. You can get a stock crank offset ground, to many combinations of rod and piston combo's. The quality of stroker kits is pretty much related to price and mfg. reputation too. All up to the individual who is going to build or have built, a reliable and fast engine.

    Just for a little enlightenment for a few individuals that may not have researched quite enough on the whole subject, there are also instances of "destroking" an engine for certain applications. For instance, when the 221 Ford came out, IMCA midget rules allowed a maximum of 215ci's, which was what the great Offenhauser engines were. They dominated for years, we destroked the little 221 to those specs and the little car was a real screamer at 8000rpm. To bad the suspension technology of those days, was not up to getting that torque, etc, to the ground in a timely manner. This type of engineering is what is called "hot rodding" and has brought many of us to where we are now.By the way the high end stroker kits, like Eagle, use the 2.100 rod journal size, this is for use of the Cheby V6 bearings of the 229ci engine of old. Clevite 1227 is the number. These are narrower as is the matching rods. This is mostly a weight and balance factor plus some oiling and other technical stuff I have not gotten into at my age. Wait till Mavman reveals the new 408 combo he has come up with for his next engine. It confuses me as to the numbers and measurement of the internals, and even why it is being tried. Guess he must have done his homework too.
     
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    This post is an odd one to follow....

    I don't know what to say...

    It would seem that if in fact that "guy" did put a stroker crank in the comet 302, then he has obviously not buttoned it up yet. Let alone run it. he he he.... and if that is truly the "case"..... " " lol.... then he knows just enough to get him into an ignorant situation. or trouble....

    yeah, definately trouble....

    sounds bogus to me though....
     
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    What Old Guy said,

    And, to stoke this fire a bit more.....

    Most of us know a zero deck engine will have better quench which means more power. There are two ways to get zero deck. One, take some material off the block deck to bring the deck down to the piston, or two, offset grind the crank to bring the piston up to the deck. That will add a cube or two resulting in an odd CID.
     

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